# Bundle Creator: Improving the UI/UX design **URL:** \ **Category:** Artists Feedback & Testing\ **Created:** [February 5, 2023, 8:18pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405 "2023-02-05T20:18:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Srirupa\_Datta](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/srirupa_datta/32/67200_2.png) [@Srirupa\_Datta](https://krita-artists.org/u/Srirupa_Datta)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2023, 8:18pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405/1 "2023-02-05T20:18:51Z")
The Bundle Creator currently has the following issues: - Difficult to find the specific brush preset you’re looking for. There exists no filtering by name or filtering by tag as one can find in the Resource Manager. Suggested fix: This could be fixed by using a layout similar to the left side of the Resource Manager - Embedding tags into the bundle is not really convenient. Apart from that, one cannot add custom tags in the Bundle Creator itself. Suggested fix: Again, this could be something similar to how we add tags for brushes in the Resource Manager. - Not much info is remembered after a new bundle is created. Suggested fix: Remember the options selected in the last bundle once create a new bundle is clicked. This is particularly useful when making a bundle for other people. Notice how one cannot filter and add the brushes, gamut masks, etc in the old Bundle Creator. ![Old BC](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/5/6/5637b7f9e07959e0043c85b38f38ff7a31a2c223.png) The new Bundle Creator would look something like this. Notice how this is similar to the Resource Manager (left side). ![New BC](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/a/6/a6efca7f6078bedeb9216e69e2c8cb1c56efe668.png) Also, the adding tags for the Types is not as convenient. And you happen to have the option of adding tags for types that do not have a tag. ![Old BC tags](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/6/4/6482d10e6e483f18e6040b878e687410ddc7122d.png) Any suggestions on how the new Embed Tags dialog should look? Also, feel free to suggest other improvements related to the Bundle Creator. ---
**Author:** ![RamonM](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/ramonm/32/236795_2.png) [@RamonM](https://krita-artists.org/u/RamonM)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2023, 4:02pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405/2 "2023-02-06T16:02:26Z")
For me as a brush creator, it would be usefult to have: - a counter, referred to presets that we are going to add. - Not add tags needed. IS not a big problem but is something that i would think the Software does for me. - grid View for adding resources mini windows. Sometimes only icons are needed, not entire names. maybe this is enough,thanks ---
**Author:** ![Srirupa\_Datta](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/srirupa_datta/32/67200_2.png) [@Srirupa\_Datta](https://krita-artists.org/u/Srirupa_Datta)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2023, 5:04pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405/3 "2023-02-06T17:04:06Z")
@RamonM Can you please elaborate a bit on this? I’m having a bit of trouble understanding, would be great if you could explain what exactly you are suggesting, with some mock diagrams, and possibly in a more detailed manner? ---
**Author:** ![RamonM](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/ramonm/32/236795_2.png) [@RamonM](https://krita-artists.org/u/RamonM)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2023, 8:33pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405/4 "2023-02-06T20:33:22Z")
Ok, asap i will ellaborate better the ideas. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Srirupa\_Datta](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/srirupa_datta/32/67200_2.png) [@Srirupa\_Datta](https://krita-artists.org/u/Srirupa_Datta)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405/5 "2023-02-06T20:52:21Z")
Thanks a lot! ---
**Author:** ![Srirupa\_Datta](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/srirupa_datta/32/67200_2.png) [@Srirupa\_Datta](https://krita-artists.org/u/Srirupa_Datta)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405/6 "2023-02-11T17:08:39Z")
I have two possible ideas for how the Bundle Creator is going to look like. This part only focuses on improving layout for displaying the resources. ![ink (4)](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/6/e/6ede61edb9eefa2927c6e302c18c50baf6c85f84.png) So, Idea-1 just adds the individual resources to the selected category once they are clicked, Ctrl + click in order to select multiple resources. Idea-2 displays the selected resources along with their names in an adjacent list view as shown. This is probably more suitable if you want to have a glance at all your selected resources at once. However, this can make the Bundle Creator look a little cluttered to some users. Thoughts on which design is more preferable? And of course, any other design that someone wants to suggest! _Poll ([view on site](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405/6))_ Also, the Locations Combo Box as shown below can have an **All Locations** option. If “All Locations” is selected, one can create a new bundle out of all the available resources across all the existing bundles. If some other option is chosen, say Krita3 default Resources, in that case only the resources in Krita3 default bundle would be shown in the grid view. This is particularly useful if one needs to create a bundle out of an existing bundle without having to go through all the resources. Or for someone who’s willing to create a new bundle from scratch, he/she can just choose “All Resources”. ![ink (5)](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/6/7/67b4216f8277cb5d7f954bacfe9163cf4a423852.png) ---
**Author:** ![SirPigeonz](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/sirpigeonz/32/44819_2.png) [@SirPigeonz](https://krita-artists.org/u/SirPigeonz)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2023, 11:29pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405/7 "2023-02-11T23:29:56Z")
@Srirupa_Datta Thank you for working on this! Bundle Creator really needs some love! 🙂 > [@Srirupa\_Datta](#): > > adds the individual resources to the selected category once they are clicked, Ctrl + click in order to select multiple resources I think we don’t have to use CTRL to select multiple. Just make it click select, click again to de-select. This list has only one job - to select resources - so it doesn’t need modifiers in my opinion 🙂 > [@Srirupa\_Datta](#): > > Idea-2 displays the selected resources along with their names in an adjacent list view as shown. This is probably more suitable if you want to have a glance at all your selected resources at once. I like this idea mainly because it will be very useful to have a list of all selected assets even if we switch filtering setting to grab other resource, and we will lose sight of previously selected 🙂 So extra list is very good idea! > [@Srirupa\_Datta](#): > > However, this can make the Bundle Creator look a little cluttered to some users. I think it’s not a huge problem, but I have some feedback about layout of the whole window that will help with UX and make it feel lest cluttered. ![image](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/f/d/fdadbc1464b1c7100e49db50906c88f58ff2acb9.jpeg) ![image](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/9/1/91cd4cff3b7ff4996e90015c43787c13bfcaede0.jpeg) The idea is to split the window visually into sections. **Red section** - will contain the metadata field for the bundle. I would also move `Save location` to the bottom of it and give it a frame to show that it’s a bit of an oddball there because technically its not a metadata, but we have to put it somewhere 🙂 **Blue section** - will contain widgets responsible to manage bundle contents. **Green section** - will contain widgets responsible to help user find resources he wants. **Violet section** - will help to give user an overview of what he already did and extra options for final tweaks. For example, I would add a button to remove resources from the list if he changed his/her mind. It would be really bad UX if the user would have to go back to find the location of the resource he added AGAIN just to remove it from the list. A little `Remove Button` on the list will help with that I think. ## Other UX tweaks that I think should be part of this rework 1. Bundle Creator window should be resizable. For now, it’s not, and it makes it hard to work with when you can’t make a short list of assets longer 🙂 2. Make a window a bit bigger - resource lists are usually big… 3. Widget with resource display settings, the same as in for example `Preset Dialog`. I would place it on the end of, **Green** and **Violet** sections titles. (mockup below) ![image](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/8/5/85125d165345c03b19f4af42199a8a26f3db8d67.jpeg) 4. I personally would also create separate `Menu` entry `Bundle Creator` there is already `Action` for it it just has to be place in menu. 5. I would consider with other devs to move `Manage Resource Libraries`, `Manage Resources` and `Bundle Creator` from `Menu > Settings` to `Menu > Tools` and move `Menu > Tools > Scripts` to `Menu > Scripts` I will think more about how it should be improved and will post new findings or ideas later. EDIT: > [@Srirupa\_Datta](#): > > Also, the Locations Combo Box as shown below can have an **All Locations** option. Great idea! Thank you for working on this! :3 ---
**Author:** ![tachiko](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/tachiko/32/30199_2.png) [@tachiko](https://krita-artists.org/u/tachiko)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405/8 "2023-02-12T00:41:00Z")
just uploading this here, didnt read everything but this was one idea I had to help pick the brush you want to send to be bundled ![one way to create bundles easily](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/d/6/d63c3e715163a4586971c44ea3fd2d4cadc3c951.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Srirupa\_Datta](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/srirupa_datta/32/67200_2.png) [@Srirupa\_Datta](https://krita-artists.org/u/Srirupa_Datta)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 10:37am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405/9 "2023-02-12T10:37:09Z")
I just made a mock-up based on what you suggested, and what I understood from that. Let me know if I need to change something. ![mock Bundle Creator](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/f/a/fa33dcec175e6d0e4ea1fe42f38158635992db23.jpeg) Functionalities/Changes that you suggested: - Click to select, click again to de-select resources in the gridview. - Shift `Save to` to the bottom. - A `Remove Resource` button to remove resources from the list( Selected Resources List) - A resizeable Bundle Creator Window, and a bigger window. - Widget with resource display settings for both `Search` and `Selected` Columns. - Create a separate `Menu` entry called `Bundle Creator`. Question: So you mean Bundle Creator could now be opened directly from the `Menu` as well as from `Resource Manager`? - Move `Manage Resource Libraries` , `Manage Resources` and `Bundle Creator` from `Menu > Settings` to `Menu > Tools` and move `Menu > Tools > Scripts` to `Menu > Scripts` Note: This needs to discussed with the other devs. I kind of just repeated whatever you said, but needed to clarify. 😃 Also, thanks for explaining in such details! ---
**Author:** ![Srirupa\_Datta](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/srirupa_datta/32/67200_2.png) [@Srirupa\_Datta](https://krita-artists.org/u/Srirupa_Datta)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 10:48am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405/10 "2023-02-12T10:48:58Z")
So you are suggesting to add a Drag and Drop version of the Bundle Creator in the Resource Manager itself? This is something I need to talk with the other devs and artists first. But personally, I feel like this is kind of redundant if there’s already an option of creating a new bundle from an existing bundle as I mentioned in one of my comments above. (shown below) > [@Srirupa\_Datta](#): > > Also, the Locations Combo Box as shown below can have an **All Locations** option. If “All Locations” is selected, one can create a new bundle out of all the available resources across all the existing bundles. If some other option is chosen, say Krita3 default Resources, in that case only the resources in Krita3 default bundle would be shown in the grid view. This is particularly useful if one needs to create a bundle out of an existing bundle without having to go through all the resources. Or for someone who’s willing to create a new bundle from scratch, he/she can just choose “All Resources”. ---
**Author:** ![tachiko](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/tachiko/32/30199_2.png) [@tachiko](https://krita-artists.org/u/tachiko)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 12:27pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405/11 "2023-02-12T12:27:40Z")
Which ever is easiest to implement. the main thing is being able to search for a brush as easily as we do to paint with them. Tag and typing filters is a lot better than needing to scroll through all your brushes, yes name conventions help but is tedious Outside the brush creator but still having to do with ease of finding a brush. I’d like to have ability to move brush order around within a tag. ---
**Author:** ![EyeOdin](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/eyeodin/32/2662_2.png) [@EyeOdin](https://krita-artists.org/u/EyeOdin)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 2:03pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405/12 "2023-02-12T14:03:23Z")
For this mockup I would change : - “remove resource” to “remove selected” the title saying it is resources I think would enough. - having save and remove really close can cause miss clicks but I have no alternative idea for it. Things look organised properly. My worries with the bundle creator is not so much the UI as compared to it acctually working when hitting save. One of the smal details that come to mind is trying to save and the file already existing because it did not save properly. I would want to like overwrite so I don’t have to be write a new path for every version after a failed attempt. Maybe just a popup asking “do you want to overwrite? Yes cancel” Just to be sure and overwrite it. Now a question out of curiosity. Will it be able add other resources like keyboard shortcuts? There are a lot of resources missing from bundle creation for what I read in the manual. But truth be told the folder system is not even fully created when starting out a new krita install and you need to create the folders or create a file to create those hidden resource folders. Honestly I would just expose everything from the get go even if the folder was empty because that already happens to some of them. There are just some resources that are choosen not to have a folder from the get go and not able to be bundled, fact I never understood. ---
**Author:** ![Srirupa\_Datta](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/srirupa_datta/32/67200_2.png) [@Srirupa\_Datta](https://krita-artists.org/u/Srirupa_Datta)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405/13 "2023-02-12T18:36:27Z")
@EyeOdin > [@EyeOdin](#): > > “remove resource” to “remove selected” the title saying it is resources I think would enough. Sure, I’ll change this! > [@EyeOdin](#): > > Maybe just a popup asking “do you want to overwrite? Yes cancel” Just to be sure and overwrite it. Doesn’t this already happen when clicking on `Save`? Like I just checked and whenever I try to create a new bundle with an existing name in the same path, I get something like this… ![same bundle](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/3/b/3b9f5d65fb95b98b4cdc4a6ec62314b51b23bdd0.png) Isn’t this what you were asking for? Just let me know if I misunderstood you in any way. > [@EyeOdin](#): > > Now a question out of curiosity. Will it be able add other resources like keyboard shortcuts? There are a lot of resources missing from bundle creation for what I read in the manual. But truth be told the folder system is not even fully created when starting out a new krita install and you need to create the folders or create a file to create those hidden resource folders. Honestly I would just expose everything from the get go even if the folder was empty because that already happens to some of them. There are just some resources that are choosen not to have a folder from the get go and not able to be bundled, fact I never understood. I’m sorry but I don’t think I know enough about this(why some resources cannot be bundled). @tiar can you please look into this? ---
**Author:** ![Srirupa\_Datta](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/srirupa_datta/32/67200_2.png) [@Srirupa\_Datta](https://krita-artists.org/u/Srirupa_Datta)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 6:44pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405/14 "2023-02-12T18:44:04Z")
> [@tachiko](#): > > I’d like to have ability to move brush order around within a tag. Can you explain in which scenarios does the reordering of the resources help? I haven’t worked with bundles so I’m not sure about this. Also would you want this feature for the Search Resources gridview (left one) or the Selected Resourcs gridview (right one)? ---
**Author:** ![EyeOdin](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/eyeodin/32/2662_2.png) [@EyeOdin](https://krita-artists.org/u/EyeOdin)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 7:50pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405/15 "2023-02-12T19:50:55Z")
> [@Srirupa\_Datta](#): > > Isn’t this what you were asking for? Just let me know if I misunderstood you in any way. you understood well. but well I have not made a bundles in a long while. I might be worried with old stuff. but I had a lot of issues making bundles in the past (in all my attempts) to the point I still have not updated my own bundle. It seems I always encounter a weird bug when i try. ---
**Author:** ![Hologram](https://krita-artists.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/41988e/32.png) [@Hologram](https://krita-artists.org/u/Hologram)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 8:24pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405/16 "2023-02-12T20:24:19Z")
On the left most pane, shouldn’t there also be an input box where you can specify tags, comma separated? ---
**Author:** ![tachiko](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/tachiko/32/30199_2.png) [@tachiko](https://krita-artists.org/u/tachiko)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405/17 "2023-02-12T20:50:50Z")
I meant for brush docker. Like we could give a brush a row value. 1 to appear in first row or nearest. ---
**Author:** ![SirPigeonz](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/sirpigeonz/32/44819_2.png) [@SirPigeonz](https://krita-artists.org/u/SirPigeonz)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 10:36pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405/18 "2023-02-12T22:36:30Z")
> [@Srirupa\_Datta](#): > > I just made a mock-up based on what you suggested, and what I understood from that. Let me know if I need to change something. Really nice! 😃 I like how you solved `Remove Resource` from selected list. I think this is a better solution than what I proposed and will work with both grid and list view. 🙂 I agree with @EyeOdin that it should be renamed. In my opinion, to `Remove from selected`. Made some slight adjustment I think worth considering: ![image](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/7/2/72a601c8f9aefc071164d3c102d0aefca0a0f5cb.jpeg) I made `Search` and `Select` title labels bigger and aligned with the button on the side. Aligned bottoms of the `Search` and `Select` sections with each other. Made stronger and wider separation between two main sections. I was considering moving them to different Tabs, but not sure if that is needed. `Save to` moved lower and separated it with horizontal separator. > [@Srirupa\_Datta](#): > > Create a separate `Menu` entry called `Bundle Creator`. > Question: So you mean Bundle Creator could now be opened directly from the `Menu` as well as from `Resource Manager`? Yes, It already can be opened directly if you assign shortcut, but I think adding it as direct `Menu` entry will be a nice QoL feature. Rest is correct 🙂 Nice work, thank you! :3 ---
**Author:** ![Srirupa\_Datta](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/srirupa_datta/32/67200_2.png) [@Srirupa\_Datta](https://krita-artists.org/u/Srirupa_Datta)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405/19 "2023-02-13T18:09:22Z")
@Hologram There is already an `Embed Tags` button for adding tags for particular resources, though if I am not wrong we still can’t create our own tags from the Bundle Creator itself. That is something I would also add to the improvement list. Is that what you were implying? @EyeOdin You can let me know if you face any bugs recently, I can add that to the list of improvements! @SirPigeonz I liked the improvements you suggested, thanks! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Srirupa\_Datta](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/srirupa_datta/32/67200_2.png) [@Srirupa\_Datta](https://krita-artists.org/u/Srirupa_Datta)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 6:25pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405/20 "2023-02-13T18:25:52Z")
I think the Brush Docker is completely different than the Bundle Creator, though maybe they’ll look similar if the Bundle Creator has a gridview for showing resources. I can understand why you would want the brushes ordered according to your preference in the Brush Docker, but why in the Bundle Creator? [Next page](https://krita-artists.org/t/bundle-creator-improving-the-ui-ux-design/57405.md?page=2)