# Coloring a ball in japanese 2d animation template test **URL:** \ **Category:** Artists Feedback & Testing\ **Created:** [October 24, 2022, 1:12pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/coloring-a-ball-in-japanese-2d-animation-template-test/50195 "2022-10-24T13:12:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Takiro](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/takiro/32/209381_2.png) [@Takiro](https://krita-artists.org/u/Takiro)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/coloring-a-ball-in-japanese-2d-animation-template-test/50195/21 "2022-10-26T17:33:36Z")
> [@Diego\_Oswaldo\_Morale](#): > > then why is even there an unfinished template for anime (Japanese template) animation Templates are just predefined setups for layers when you create a new file, nothing more. Existence of a template doesn’t imply the existence of any features. You can even make your own templates, the ones that come with Krita are basically just examples. ---
**Author:** ![THE\_CULT\_OF\_BERSERK](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/the_cult_of_berserk/32/57092_2.png) [@THE\_CULT\_OF\_BERSERK](https://krita-artists.org/u/THE_CULT_OF_BERSERK)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 6:44pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/coloring-a-ball-in-japanese-2d-animation-template-test/50195/22 "2022-10-26T18:44:33Z")
Yes, but i wanna poste some of the features related to this, Would be a great idea if this process of InknPaint for animation they considered in the future of development of Krita, ported from Opentoonz. I mean they are some nice features could be useful. ![image](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/d/1/d1c9ca3182018dbae6fe5f54eed2acd08b9cffac.png) > > > In order to make OpenToonz to be introduced into Japanese Animation industry, so…me new features are necessary to be implemented. > > As a first step, I will focus on InknPaint work. In Japan, almost all animation studios are using Retas PaintMan for their InknPaint work and staffs have been familiar with it over the years. So it is very important to modify OpenToonz and gain consistency with PaintMan in usability. > With the cooperation of some Japanese animation studio, we made an InknPaint workflow plan using OpenToonz as follows: > > \ > \[InknPaint workflow using OpenToonz.pdf\](https://github.com/opentoonz/opentoonz/files/390476/InknPaint.workflow.using.OpenToonz.pdf) > > Please note that we made the input and output data to be the same as the current workflow done with PaintMan so that they can transfer their workflow comfortably. > To realize the above, some features are still missing as follows (marked with red boxes in the diagram): > \- \[x\] When converting images to TLV, make “Autopaint for Lines” option to be activated by default for the initial color styles which are added for self-color lines. > \- \[x\] Add "Organize palette" option to the style picker tool. With this option, the picked style is automatically moved to the first page of the palette. > \- \[x\] When picking style with the "Organize palette" option activated, memorize picked position in the style data in order to maintain link between styles and the raster color model. > \- \[x\] Add “Update colors by using picked position” command. Colors are picked from the color model by using the picked position memorized in each style. > \- \[x\] Make it enable to switch style using numpad keys. Hit Tab key to shift a scope of 10 styles to be selected with numpad keys. > \- \[\] Highlight a part of the color model image temporarily when the style switched in order to show which part of the character should be filled with the current style. > \- \[\] Open the Locator sub-window from the Viewer for showing close-up image at mouse position. > \- \[\] Add "autoclose" option to the Fill tool. With this option, line gaps will be automatically closed on filling somehow. (I have no idea yet how to realize this.) > > > \ > > \--- > Want to back this issue? \*\*\[Post a bounty on it!\](https://www.bountysource.com/issues/36460909-inknpaint-workflow-compatible-with-japanese-animation-industry?utm\_campaign=plugin&utm\_content=tracker%2F33713530&utm\_medium=issues&utm\_source=github)\*\* We accept bounties via \[Bountysource\](https://www.bountysource.com/?utm\_campaign=plugin&utm\_content=tracker%2F33713530&utm\_medium=issues&utm\_source=github). > \ Of course i just talking in an hipotetical way of this kind of themes. ![image](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/e/7/e7ca9d41d6231f6ac9b9fd724b282fe32b57a0ab.png) ---
**Author:** ![EyeOdin](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/eyeodin/32/2662_2.png) [@EyeOdin](https://krita-artists.org/u/EyeOdin)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 12:16am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/coloring-a-ball-in-japanese-2d-animation-template-test/50195/23 "2022-10-27T00:16:46Z")
I am not a krita developer 🙃 also TLDR. having to make all that research just to GUESS what you might want to say is something I wont do. If it is not important enough to write down it is not important enough to read. ---
**Author:** ![THE\_CULT\_OF\_BERSERK](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/the_cult_of_berserk/32/57092_2.png) [@THE\_CULT\_OF\_BERSERK](https://krita-artists.org/u/THE_CULT_OF_BERSERK)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 12:20am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/coloring-a-ball-in-japanese-2d-animation-template-test/50195/25 "2022-10-27T00:20:57Z")
Sorry, my english its bad, i just want to share the things i know for this thread, sorry if my words sounds very direct. I just have the habit to speak of more of the things related to this. If you can understand my words i hope you dont misunderstand. Because this thread its related to the animation stuff, 🤔 😑 😶 ---
**Author:** ![kaichi1342](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/kaichi1342/32/8174_2.png) [@kaichi1342](https://krita-artists.org/u/kaichi1342)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/coloring-a-ball-in-japanese-2d-animation-template-test/50195/26 "2022-10-27T01:27:13Z")
I think its a lot better to write a detailed feature request. Not all of us here are animators and understand the term for animation or what exactly it is. that even if we try to research it to understand we probably be searching wrong. if its not yet in opentoonz an app dedicated to 2d animation, most likely its not yet here [in krita an app that leans to digital painting] or even thought out by the devs in detail that someone with knowledge to process do. So even if we know this is animation, our knowledge of this specific animation is so little , that the context is hard to grasp without the context and detail. I suggest you write a feature request, with that document, in this format: * * * Feature Title: --------------------------- what open toonz is trying to implement as reference: ------------------------- if a video the japanese animation industry explaining the key coloring exist , add it. add that pic you send there. How does it work in general? How do you expect it to work in Krita? If you have work around , what is it? ---
**Author:** ![Diego\_Oswaldo\_Morale](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/diego_oswaldo_morale/32/57031_2.png) [@Diego\_Oswaldo\_Morale](https://krita-artists.org/u/Diego_Oswaldo_Morale)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 2:39am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/coloring-a-ball-in-japanese-2d-animation-template-test/50195/27 "2022-10-27T02:39:46Z")
I understand, you mean to use layers of colored lines to analog the red/blue/highlight/shadow stuff, it could be useful working with other people to let them color it once you traced all the lines ( to fill). but asking for efficiency and not for the eastern production method, using fusion moded layer can be worth it. I can see the advantages and disadvantages of this template, and now I exposed this doubt on mine and gotten feedback, I can see more options for producing an animation, as well as different ways of working with color, we could work on separating stages (animation - lines - color) or working all in one road. in terms of Japanese animation,(production) Krita can be useful if we work in collaboration separating stages. we just need to know what kind of production we gotta have for the animation before using Krita. also this could be still missing something, there could be more options hide but i think that it would take to make another tittle ---
**Author:** ![Diego\_Oswaldo\_Morale](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/diego_oswaldo_morale/32/57031_2.png) [@Diego\_Oswaldo\_Morale](https://krita-artists.org/u/Diego_Oswaldo_Morale)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 2:46am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/coloring-a-ball-in-japanese-2d-animation-template-test/50195/28 "2022-10-27T02:46:28Z")
thanks but I already have animated in Krita, i wanted to explore a different option ---
**Author:** ![Diego\_Oswaldo\_Morale](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/diego_oswaldo_morale/32/57031_2.png) [@Diego\_Oswaldo\_Morale](https://krita-artists.org/u/Diego_Oswaldo_Morale)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 2:55am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/coloring-a-ball-in-japanese-2d-animation-template-test/50195/29 "2022-10-27T02:55:21Z")
no worries, I can understand how you feel, I am learning and writing questions to learn more and be able to have more options related to the use I give to Krita, which is the animation. because Krita was the only software that my 3gbs ram /2009 table pc, (almost my ww2 machine war) could run and I am thankful for what Krita has given me, that has given to all of us. the chance of a way of doing it ---
**Author:** ![Diego\_Oswaldo\_Morale](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/diego_oswaldo_morale/32/57031_2.png) [@Diego\_Oswaldo\_Morale](https://krita-artists.org/u/Diego_Oswaldo_Morale)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 3:15am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/coloring-a-ball-in-japanese-2d-animation-template-test/50195/30 "2022-10-27T03:15:25Z")
thanks, bro, at the beginning of the thread I just wanted to color a ball in a different way from my usual, and then I started to feel like there could be more options hidden in the template (also the opposite way in which I could just be imagining those options where there due to the feeling) it could be, that Krita develops the option if I write that request, but at the moment I’m good knowing the answer of my actual request. that is that no matter what I do, that red space won’t become a brighter orange in highlight and darker in the blue space… you know, the keyani stuff. buuuuut , it can be still useful if we instead of actually coloring the animation, let others fill with color the “trace” assuming that the red spaces are highlights and the blue … I am sleepy … spaces are shadows, etc, etc. as @Deif_Lou said, can be done manually. also, @THE_CULT_OF_BERSERK is right, talking about that (the research he did) can be cool if we have a Krita coloring option like that in our power, then I could make another thread talking about how to animate on paper using Krita. jejeje ---
**Author:** ![kaichi1342](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/kaichi1342/32/8174_2.png) [@kaichi1342](https://krita-artists.org/u/kaichi1342)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 3:21am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/coloring-a-ball-in-japanese-2d-animation-template-test/50195/31 "2022-10-27T03:21:21Z")
I can’t fault anyone trying to push this software to its limit - even if its frustrating at times. Kinda inspiring 🙂 It’s actually interesting and I do love the discussion made - that’s why i suggested a FR thread because seems that there’s more that can be talk about. Good luck on the ball animation ^-^. Do share to us the finish work. ---
**Author:** ![THE\_CULT\_OF\_BERSERK](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/the_cult_of_berserk/32/57092_2.png) [@THE\_CULT\_OF\_BERSERK](https://krita-artists.org/u/THE_CULT_OF_BERSERK)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 5:41am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/coloring-a-ball-in-japanese-2d-animation-template-test/50195/32 "2022-10-27T05:41:12Z")
i was triying to share all the knowlegde i got, but seems there is few people misunderstood my words in a bad way, thats why i get for being very passional in this kind of conversation i got in animation development, even if i talk in **hipotetical way** however, i recomend you maybe waiting for the next update or the next Krita 5.2, because the feature i think you want its something they got into the RETAS STYLUS , maybe but this tool are already implement but in Krita. So maybe they need to elaborate another option for that tool for working for painting , i am not sure. Maybe you can try with Csp the feature for paiting cells too and try for for elaborate new ideas for this. ![image](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/d/c/dc519e61a706c02e0fc76a7d9a40a895ddd3e491.png) ---
**Author:** ![THE\_CULT\_OF\_BERSERK](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/the_cult_of_berserk/32/57092_2.png) [@THE\_CULT\_OF\_BERSERK](https://krita-artists.org/u/THE_CULT_OF_BERSERK)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 5:51am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/coloring-a-ball-in-japanese-2d-animation-template-test/50195/33 "2022-10-27T05:51:40Z")
Maybe the coloring Process its been related to this ["Close gap" in Fill tool](https://krita-artists.org/t/close-gap-in-fill-tool/32043)? Because its in his first implementations. You can try it in Krita for drafts drawings. But its very difficult if you gonna painting all the drawing with the method from Opentoonz, i tried many times its kinda messy and the result its not the same , like the way they do in Opentoonz. ![image](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/2/5/25acbc13dd201ce6eecfc18bec845a3ed715e624.png) ---
**Author:** ![Diego\_Oswaldo\_Morale](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/diego_oswaldo_morale/32/57031_2.png) [@Diego\_Oswaldo\_Morale](https://krita-artists.org/u/Diego_Oswaldo_Morale)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 11:52am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/coloring-a-ball-in-japanese-2d-animation-template-test/50195/34 "2022-10-27T11:52:01Z")
it would be cool. but is it in Krita? how do I look for it? also, this was how the animation went. I used 2 layer fusion mode layers. [![](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/2/4/242275eb9c801e05e1c63df0715c6ef9bed719c0.jpeg "KRITA 2d japanese animation test- coloring a ball") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPmQDcXekJY) ---
**Author:** ![THE\_CULT\_OF\_BERSERK](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/the_cult_of_berserk/32/57092_2.png) [@THE\_CULT\_OF\_BERSERK](https://krita-artists.org/u/THE_CULT_OF_BERSERK)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/coloring-a-ball-in-japanese-2d-animation-template-test/50195/35 "2024-09-23T16:05:57Z")
Hello its been a while this Thread i hope with this new addition to the Close Gap in Fill tool would be the solution, but i am not sure if this feature can be the one you want. Besides they are already added in 2023 or this 2024. > [@"Close gap" in Fill tool](https://krita-artists.org/t/close-gap-in-fill-tool/32043/210): > > Hi all! I’m very pleased to announce that the gap closing patch has been accepted to master today. As usual, big thanks to @dkazakov for the review and many others for valuable comments. We had to make some compromises and the feature is certainly not perfect, but it’s a start. I hope it will already be useful to everyone who’s been waiting for it for so long smiling_face_with_tear Here are the temporary builds from master. Eventually, they will be available in Nightly builds (um, when they… Could you let me know if you tried this tool? ---
**Author:** ![YRH](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/yrh/32/232547_2.png) [@YRH](https://krita-artists.org/u/YRH)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 5:43pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/coloring-a-ball-in-japanese-2d-animation-template-test/50195/36 "2024-09-23T17:43:45Z")
Hey, the gap closing fill (and a lot of other new stuff) is available in Krita 5.3 builds, “Krita Next” nightly master builds. However, these are always considered testing only and can be unstable. I’m not sure when it will be available as a regular release. [Previous page](https://krita-artists.org/t/coloring-a-ball-in-japanese-2d-animation-template-test/50195.md?page=1)