Hey everyone, It is okay to have different views and debate heavily on the topic, but I request everybody to keep the discussion to a bit cooler side. We have enough global warming already 
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I have been using open source software for over 10 years. competition is critical to the development of free software. I think you are deeply mistaken. perhaps you are confused by the popular synonymy between the concepts of free software, open software and the rights movement. software to any rights to self-expression has only indirect value . his task is to fulfill his function in the most efficient way.
PS when i talk about “pink unicorns” I mean dragging various social concepts into professional spheres
ahaha good. I think our conversation is very friendly. and it’s great that people are trying to convey their views on the development of Krita. I think this shows one huge common point - we are not indifferent to Krita. 
I wondered how many years I have been using only free software. 16 years. I ask you not to judge strictly. I think it’s good. that our views and cultures do not coincide: the main thing is that we have common concerns: make the world a better place, use free software and promote its ideas
How long you’ve been using free software doesn’t necessarily mean you know what their philosophy is. I’ve celebrated christmas and easter every year of my life, but I’ve never read the bible 
The reason I’m faulting you is because you seem confused about the idea of FOSS like Krita being /free for everyone/. It’s not just for professionals, so it makes sense that not only professionals get to represent Krita and it’s community. It’s called inclusivity. That’s why it’s upsetting when you go out and say people’s art isn’t good enough for Krita. It doesn’t help that you do so by insulting people here and call them names, and then complain that they aren’t acting professional enough. Maybe you think you’re being funny, but that’s not how others interpret your posts. I’ll leave this discussion now by reiterating that you’ll find people a lot less hostile if you don’t talk down to them.
It’s good that you’re interested in Krita’s development! It is true that Krita would benefit from more marketing. But part of what makes Krita a great software is its openness both in terms of source code but also its openness towards all kinds of people, not just professional artists.
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I think you did not understand me correctly.
look: splash screens in Krita are beautiful - they use illustrations of Tyson Tan and David Revoy. scary amateur images from the official site are not used there. software freedom is not equal to freedom of expression. it’s not about that at all. you mixed up warm and sour
Btw if anyone wants to discuss what free means and how it all relates to Krita and other software, there will be Libre Graphics Meeting in May/June in Rennes (France). It is a few days long conference about all FOSS art/graphics-related programs and other things (like the first project to provide an open alternative to PANTENE colors). When I was there last year, lectures and resentations were mostly about development (and cool new features), while workshops were more art/graphics-oriented.
Since there are a lot of libre graphics program developers (including Krita developers) and a lot of artists, both random ones (lost souls from the nearby art college) and open source dedicated fans/artists, it is an awesome opportunity to talk with people around about how they see the “libre-ness”, what does it mean to people (except for the fact that the source code is out in the open) and how other programs fulfill this goal (is it only open source or something else? some other ideas?).
Krita’s or KDE contributors can get the reimbursement for the travel costs from KDE (Not sure if there are any rules they need to adhere as well, like if there is a minimum involvement set up which you need to prove or anything, but there is this possibility).
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Maybe @Paul is bothered to see that some people have very little artistic experience but like nevertheless to flow the forums with their posts, just to feel some kind of Facebook like happiness and be accepted as netizens in their social media …
A good idea would be if everyone who sends a lot of sketches labeled as finished artwork would create his her own post and update their post to keep the forum neat and less spammed,
I remember that I already asked something similar, was about an additional category though. I was told that the definition of finished artwork on this site is any artwork you consider done and don’t want to continue working on. This also includes sketches not only fully rendered paintings and drawings.
The concept of open source is fair to everyone, and I can’t agree more with it
every participant should be able to understand themselves how to behave to make the community great, not just to show up “watch at me” with little to no effort, like with sloppy scribbles (I’m talking about bloody beginners)
But that’s asked too much by amateurs who have no idea themselves what they’re doing.
Therefore some moderation would be helpful in such cases, my opinion..
It’s Christmas time. 'Tis the season of good will to all artists (no matter what their level of skill). 
How can we judge this drawing is not good enough to be here ??
Art is a subjective point of view.
Look at this one:
Sold for 72.84 million dollars… 
Personally I don’t like it, but someone was able to buy this for an amount that I will never have in 10 or 100 life just because it was considered as something exceptional from an artistic point of view… ??
I think I can find on krita-artist many painting I find better than this one, even drawn by amateur.
So, what are the criteria to define something that can be considered good enough to be accepted?
It could be valuable?
The author is a well-known artist?
Personal tastes??
The technique used?
Culture?
Is this site have to be for elitist artists?
Not sure.
This question is very sensible, and judging work of other people should be made carefully.
Problem is the same for painting, drawing, literature, music, sculpture, architecture, movies… Some can like an artwork but other can hate it.
And finally there’s already a selection in top 6: you’ll never see something made by a bloody beginner
Grum999
Contemporary art is another terrain, and very subjective indeed. I subscribe
I’m more for figurative art and am happy with it.
With Figurative art you can tell someone’s skills .
I’d say definitely no. Krita always was very open, not only software wise but also the community. I think we would send the wrong signals by applying some kind of skill check for the forums. This forum was made for artists of any level using krita and finding like minded artist to help improve themselves not as a show room for only the best artists and artworks. But it’s getting off topic.
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I think after 5 years of using Krita as a hard professional illustrator I find a simple word for… ENJOY!
If you enjoy to work with Krita, share it, show off, don’t judge the marketing part. Here are a lot of people enjoying to work with Krita. They support in different ways. It is a community, and honestly a great one in my opinion.
Have fun and draw well
Cheers
Alex
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