O.R.A. project

Love the machine in the final panel. Very silver age.

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I think to be on the internet and by that being visible for others to see your works is basically a good idea. For example, now we are talking about your art. Are you always writing your own stories, or you work as an illustrator as well?

@phantie
I used to be pro comic artist long time ago, and worked with lots of writers, now I do just my own stuff for fun also you never know what that can bring you.

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So you were a pro. No wonder by the skilled drawings you posted here. And how was it like, you were given a storyline, and you made the rest alone?

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@phantie Depends if you junior than someone made thumbnail layout with frames for you before you start. that was for geshpenser German horror storybooks. later they live you alone just with script. Other times they don’t need quality just quantity . ETC.

Me gusta mucho tu manejo de los contrastes.

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this is good work. looks like a genuine comic book panel from the 60s.

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When the time comes to deal with the lettering, I suggest Blambot (https://blambot.com/), there are several free fonts and they are reasonably priced, I ended up buying a few. These are seriously some of the best comic fonts around if you’re not going to use hand lettering.

Artists are using various fund me type campaigns, it’s quite an effort to launch a successful promotion but there are steps to follow, research this aspect because others have done it and can tell you what to do and what to avoid, several YouTube channels discuss this in detail, I’m sure you will find them if you go looking. Good luck.

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@djwaterman
Thanks your comment is more than useful .

High drawing quality (level not too common in indy comics). Great inking, too. I have spotted some issues on the arm (his left arm) cloth wrinkles, in the first panel, main character, the bald guy. Other than that, it is all pretty clean. Solid style which brings me the memories of great comics from other times.

Good composition of the panels and “visual story telling”.

There are some problems in the writing (some grammar mistakes or, simply, sentences that are better worded in other ways). But these have surely been mentioned and maybe addressed in this thread (apologies, I did not read the whole thread, I just found it).

I also like the comic font chosen. Very cool for comics, yet very readable.

(if anything, “generating life out of thin air” is a bit too sci fi, even for sci fi, hehe ;D )

With the writing fixed, I think it’d be an amazing showcase of what you can do with Krita (not just digital painting).

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Ok. Now I did read most of the thread (sorry). :smiley:

So, you were (and are) actually a pro, and one of the good ones. Absolutely no surprise, top quality, as I mentioned.

As I imagined, some others mentioned the English writing thing. One extra idea: There’s a site, Wattpad (dot com). People there proofread each others’ writing, like an exchange. Probably, not being a writer, that deal would be difficult to get, but maybe (just maybe) you may reach an agreement in exchange of illustrations for their books, drawings or something, in case of not having decided to pay an editor/proof reader (which is the safest route, of course), which BTW, is not crazily expensive, and comics have a low word count.

One can use as well (it’s free) a tool called Grammarly, to proof read what you write. Not only points out typos, but also actual better ways to say things, to sound more natural and etc (I have not used it yet, but even writers speak wonders about it). By no means substitutes a good proof reader, “a human”, an editor, but it is of great help.

Some ideas:

You could do for it a crowd funding project (people donate money for the cause in exchange of certain perks, advantages, etc, or just a copy of the future comic) project, in Kickstarter, Indiegogo, or Crowdfundr (there are a few more, but only go to the ones with good traffic). But importantly, teaming up with a writer who also had some experience in crowd funding projects, as itself, carrying these campaigns can be daunting, if not exhausting, and complex: there are many strategies that you only learn once you have done a few (I have worked as an artist and graphic designer for several, but haven’t “carried” any of these projects, and realized it is quite some work for the person organizing it).

Another way, kind of easier to handle, but only effective if you are, or someone who would team up with you, reaaally good (sadly, many who say they are… aren’t) in what is social media and bringing traffic to your accounts, this solution would be platforms (not only for artists) like Patreon or Ko-fi. Both allow to get memberships to support your projects. They also receive “extras”, perks or “premium content” that do not receive your “free” social media followers. But this is permanent, usually a monthly subscription, not for 30 days like most crowd funding projects. Ko-fi is kind of more convenient for as well getting isolated freelancing gigs, not just memberships, and is better in terms of percentage of money that the platform extracts from the money earned. But Patreon might be more widely known. Right now I wouldn’t know which to recommend best, really. Both seem good.

In any case, without lots of promotion (tik tok, Youtube shorts, Instagram, Facebook, some Youtube long form, Pinterest, maybe lives in twitch and Youtube, etc, etc, etc) and moving things around quite, it is difficult to make a project take off in terms of getting some income. I’d dare to say that one must spend quite a lot of effort and time first in getting traction, traffic, without seeing a dollar (many months or even years), and once you have serious traffic, followers, etc, you can start for example putting some affiliate links in a youtube description (and asking people the favor of doing their planned purchases through those links) or getting directly some sponsorship in your videos, or etc. That means a ton of time spent working without income; indeed, quite longer than when doing crowd funding (but again, crowd funding without promotion is also almost impossible).

Comics, IMO, are one of the less ideal tasks to make income these days. If you can sustain the practice without income, then go for it, and MAYBE, in the future you will be able to monetize it, but it is a big IF, even for someone of your quality and solid experience (sadly). Currently, the hobby for passion and no income, but with hopes of getting something in the very long run is much more of a realistic view.

I was leaving out and important option. You have web comic focused platforms (their advantage: comic readers traffic, and the possibility to make big, with a lot of luck AND work), like WebToon, Tapas ( https://tapas.io ), and Comixology (it was purchased by Amazon, so, dunno what is it really now…I think basically part of Amazon Kindle KDP. Which does have its advantages: huuuge platform) . I haven’t tried them as a creator, but some people (usually pro level) make some good deals, there. Webtoon is huge (idea imported from South Korea, where it’s humongous) and it’s great when you get an exclusive contract (actual salary), but that surely is pretty hard to get. You would have more chances than the average artist, as you are quite good. Also, it’s a public dominated by certain type of comic (probably young adults/teenagers, quite manga/anime focused, etc). Although I am an advocate of “breaking the mold”, not doing what everyone else is doing; it can be a way to be spotted in a place like that, indeed.

Digital format is completely fine and avoids all the nightmares of shipping, and its costs and “surprises”. In the other side, with AI and etc, physical stuff is getting the “value” badge, and might be perceived as an advantage over a myriad of generated AI content infesting the world. That is why I might be noticing increased value on traditional made works, not only in comics or illustration.

But IMO, as full comics are yet super hard to replace (well) by AI, just do it in the fastest (to consume less of your time) and more comfy way, which probably is digital. IMO just promote the heck of it if you want it to succeed financially. But you have got to do it with a lot of brain to not become “spammy”, and definitely, teaming up with someone to proof read your texts and social media posts would be a must. If you have a magnetic personality, not great English is not a problem at all in live streaming places like the Art section of Twitch or live streaming on Youtube. There’s like more forgiveness there, as it is like a conversation with the chat.

One note, though: For crowd funding projects, IMO makes sense the physical, non digital version. Or, doing it digital but the supporter/buyer getting a beautifully printed copy (ie, by any print on demand service/company). If done manually (but after all it is scanned by you and printed by a company, to make all the copies. Just that people will know, like by delivering with it sketches scans or etc) is kind of easier to get support and donation, for merely, perception. People seem to see more logic in paying for something handmade or physical in a crowd funding project. “Physical” board games have worked quite well in Kickstarter, for example (I worked in a few which were successful).

I am not a writer, but teaming up with one would be a must (even if you had a perfect English grammar… I neither have it), even if this person would not be specialized in comic writing, as you have tons of know-how, as we can see, in visual story telling, you can perfectly guide the writer in that, doesn’t need to be a comic writer, and indeed, it’s often much more interesting that this person would be a book writer.

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wow that’s what I call powerful insight. I appreciate it man.

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Thanks all for support and kind words. As little appreciation I uploaded first six pages on my web page on art station.
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/KeoXvo
happy holydays to everyone .

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You are very good at this, man.

(Although the proof reading is still a must :slight_smile: )

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The panels look great. That classic, pulpy style just sings to me! Scenes are well laid out and it’s easy to see where characters are in relation to each other. Well detailed with excellent use of blacks. Doesn’t even need color to pep it up.

The rough part is with the lettering. Seems there’s a language barrier here, which is totally understandable. You might consider getting help from an editor of some kind who can assist with ironing out some of the wrinkles in the writing. (I speak, read and write two languages and I still wouldn’t trust myself to produce correct enough writing in my second language to pass muster with a native speaker).

That said, I would be interested in reading more of your story. Anywhere available where I can keep abreast on updates?

(UPDATE: Hey! Found your Artstation profile. Liked and Followed!)

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Looks great overall. The ceiling molding in panel 4 is a lot rougher than the rest of the page. I know this could be too slow and tedious to work tightly and detailed. Maybe a condensed scratchboard-like graphic representation, that hints at the detail, would work with the rest of your fine drawing.

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god eye I didn’t finish that yet

this looks amazing! I love your use of line weight

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I like it. It reminds me of Jack Davis with a little hint of Jack Kirby.

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