I think organizing and quick tool shouldn’t be in the same sentence. They are two distinct and separate use cases, each with their own priorities. The palette is not a brush organizer and it shouldn’t be. It’s logical use (and most likely intended purpose) is to be somewhere you put the few select brushes you are actually actively using in your process, not a library to give you an overview or let you brows your collection.
To phrase it another way: In a studio you would use drawers and boxes to organize all the brushes, paint tubes and other tools you have. But when you actually paint, you will only have a few tubes and a few brushes out on your workspace that you are actually using right now. That’s the popup palette in Krita.
I don’t know about you but to me literally nothing could be quicker and more convenient that then current “revolver” arrangement. Having to mess around with a grid with groups sounds like a nightmare when I really just want to paint without even thinking about it.
When I use the palette to change brushes it’s open for less than a second, I don’t think just pick the brush from muscle memory.
If you want a grid with lots of grouped brushes, that’s what the brushes docker is for. In turn that docker could use some improvements for better organization, and could benefit from the idea of shortcuts to open any docker as a floater.
I think what you need, and what the popup palette is meant for, are two separate use cases.
No it’s not. They are in alphabetic order, clockwise, starting from the top (12 o’clock position). It really could not be any more straightforward and predictable than that. Especially that they also appear in the same alphabetical order in the docker.
It’s simply not true for me. Perhaps I’m doing something wrong or there is a bug with my Krita, but my pop-up looks like this:
I truly can’t find the logic behind it. The docker and pop-up shows the same tag (sketch). The docker shows 3 erasers, while the pop-up shows only the first one and the third one. Other brushes are all over the place as well. And the same goes with other tags.
The pop-up palette’s arrangement never makes any sense for me, and I thought it’s always like this for everyone else. If it works fine for others then I might file a bug report.
Ok, know I see you workflow and understand what you mean.
In case of traditional medium I 100% think as you – one up to three brushes is enough. But for me, in digital painting all on the contrary. I need all my brushes under the hand.
I am ok with circle also, but I wish it would be more flexible for those like me. Fore example, ability to divide by sectors (1 to 10), and each sector could be assign to tag (like now all circle is single tag), and adding more slots (up to 100) could resolve question of grouping and having all under the hand. In that case all artist could customize pop-up palette up to their needs. But I can’t imagine amount of work for the programmers to implement such stuff. So now I just have to use docker that is opened all the time.
It is meant to be an efficient quick tool used while painting, not a solution to brush organizing.
Yeah, it’s spot-on. Considering your use cases:
I don’t know about you but to me literally nothing could be quicker and more convenient that then current “revolver” arrangement. Having to mess around with a grid with groups sounds like a nightmare when I really just want to paint without even thinking about it.
When I use the palette to change brushes it’s open for less than a second, I don’t think just pick the brush from muscle memory.
I think it’s better to completely decouple the pop-up palette and tags. The pop-up palette should be several empty slots that you can place the brushes in by drag-n-drop from docker. Creating new brushes/renaming brushes/reassigning tags should never affect the content of pop-up palette.
That’s how it was originally, you had to favorite brushes to show up there. But tags can do the exact same but much more powerful. You can create several different tags to have as ,many sets as you want to swap them any time.
I believe you are a minority in that. I know some people use many brushes (I’m the type who uses very few, sometimes just one) but never seen anyone needing more than 30 constantly at once.
A +1 for being able to drag and drop brushes independent from tags … and alphabetically independent also. I find 30 brushes okay, but would be fine with up to 40. And having the advanced colour selector in the centre of the pop-up palette could be great, clearing some space in side dockers.
