# Question about Muses brush tips

**URL:** <https://krita-artists.org/t/question-about-muses-brush-tips/42328>\
**Category:** General Questions\
**Created:** [June 6, 2022, 7:03pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/question-about-muses-brush-tips/42328 "2022-06-06T19:03:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![CrazyCatBird](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/crazycatbird/32/26371_2.png) [@CrazyCatBird](https://krita-artists.org/u/CrazyCatBird)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 7:03pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/question-about-muses-brush-tips/42328/1 "2022-06-06T19:03:39Z")

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@RamonM I downloaded the Muses pack from this post:

> [@Krita 5 beta1: Brushes don't work like they should from bundles](https://krita-artists.org/t/krita-5-beta1-brushes-dont-work-like-they-should-from-bundles/27708/21):
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> Ok, i have started my own checking for the bundle Muses. And i have modified the Muses bundle I have reviewed the 42 and updated or upgraded respecting what the bundle was. I think we are talking about 2013, wow Is a very good set… Remember the old days of Krita 2.8, Some parameters wasn’t even there. And that was noticeable in the brushes. I was thinking about an update and , why not upgrading them keeping their essence?. For example the Color smudge brushes have been upgraded to the new Smu…

But I’m having trouble with the textures brushes. Many of them don’t have tips so I had to guess the next best tip that looks similar and assign that to the preset.

The one that’s giving me the most trouble is the mecha texture brush. What is the name of the tip (or where to find the tips that were originally used for them)?

Screenshot of the preset and my best guess for the tip:

 ![Screenshot_20220606-143504](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/8/2/82a66df2a4d6991ed393e6d36bc5a99d7a3853b9.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![RamonM](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/ramonm/32/236795_2.png) [@RamonM](https://krita-artists.org/u/RamonM)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 7:38pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/question-about-muses-brush-tips/42328/2 "2022-06-06T19:38:16Z")

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![image](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/b/4/b459832a080a567beb8f22b5d126f39c2ca009db.png)

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**Author:** ![CrazyCatBird](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/crazycatbird/32/26371_2.png) [@CrazyCatBird](https://krita-artists.org/u/CrazyCatBird)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/question-about-muses-brush-tips/42328/3 "2022-06-06T20:02:58Z")

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I don’t have that one. I had just downloaded that zip file of the presets.

Where can I get the actual bundle then? If I can get it, then should those presets be deleted before importing?

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**Author:** ![RamonM](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/ramonm/32/236795_2.png) [@RamonM](https://krita-artists.org/u/RamonM)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/question-about-muses-brush-tips/42328/4 "2022-06-06T20:53:07Z")

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> **[Resources](https://docs.krita.org/en/resources_page.html)**
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> Resource Packs for Krita.

First load the bundle. Then do the update with the folder

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**Author:** ![CrazyCatBird](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/crazycatbird/32/26371_2.png) [@CrazyCatBird](https://krita-artists.org/u/CrazyCatBird)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 9:12pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/question-about-muses-brush-tips/42328/5 "2022-06-06T21:12:36Z")

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Thanks. I did that and answered Yes to the question of overwriting

 ![Screenshot_20220606-170516](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/f/a/fa9507886383bd4a1e0b7581c90a247422f124ec.jpeg)

but now there’s 2 of most of the brushes.

 ![Screenshot_20220606-170851](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/b/8/b81845784dc0e6f19ca832118ccbf46da547f434.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![sooz](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/sooz/32/93244_2.png) [@sooz](https://krita-artists.org/u/sooz)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 4:44am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/question-about-muses-brush-tips/42328/6 "2022-06-07T04:44:23Z")

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Hi @CrazyCatBird - The same thing happened to me today. I went into the resource folder and changed muses.bundle to muses.bundleOLD. Now I only have 1 of each Muses preset. Maybe that would work for you, too?

EDIT - add: Nevermind. This eliminated the duplicates but I ended up with 9 brushes without tips. Clearly I have a lot to learn about brushes. 😄

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**Author:** ![Konstrukto](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/konstrukto/32/149886_2.png) [@Konstrukto](https://krita-artists.org/u/Konstrukto)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 7:47am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/question-about-muses-brush-tips/42328/7 "2022-06-07T07:47:45Z")

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@RamonM is there a reason for not repacking it? I have yet to update (am going to in a minute) but for my personal use I would make a repack I think  
Does it have to do with copyrights or something?

Also, to be sure, this is what should be done right?

- install Muses 2019 bundle
- in file explorer open your Krita resources folder
- copy the contents of the update folder into …\users[yourname]\roaming\krita\paintoppresets
- in …\users[yourname]\roaming\krita delete ‘resourcecache.sqlite’
- restart Krita

By the way, if I do a personal repack, am I allowed to share it here?

Edit: it duplicates the brushes for me as well, a workaround is to indeed repack the new brushes into a new brushpack and then uninstall the old Muses, I haven’t tried it yet but don’t see why that shouldn’t work  
Also, bear in mind that having the old and the new is an opportunity to test the difference

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**Author:** ![RamonM](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/ramonm/32/236795_2.png) [@RamonM](https://krita-artists.org/u/RamonM)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 9:06am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/question-about-muses-brush-tips/42328/8 "2022-06-07T09:06:54Z")

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Hi, there is no reason for that repacking. These were old times when there wasn’t too much bundles available. Now i would like to know what people is interested in ;).

No copyright for the brushes and textures used.

you need to copy the entire unzipped folder here, not inside paintoppresets.

 ![image](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/3X/f/e/fe8a94bdcce4d5c4f519b1192b1f0f80f7f62d7a.png)  
Delete the resourcecache…sqlite ( i do this when i am testing only to make sure everyhing start from scratch, usually i don’t touch it) and done. Remember this is only in wip because i am testing how optimize them, or improve them. I remember i was using some old tricks. Now Krita works much much better.

I have Tested and verified with Krita 5.0.6 that it works ok  
Sure you can share it.

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**Author:** ![Konstrukto](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/konstrukto/32/149886_2.png) [@Konstrukto](https://krita-artists.org/u/Konstrukto)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 9:21am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/question-about-muses-brush-tips/42328/9 "2022-06-07T09:21:48Z")

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Thanks for the clarification @RamonM !  
Alright, I did it wrong at first hence the duplicates.

I’ll gladly share a repack for anyone who thinks the method is too technical or confusing: [https://drive.google.com/file/d/18VlVp\_tLyFVmVvaHOSUoUzo27xqZ\_jsL/view?usp=sharing](https://drive.google.com/file/d/18VlVp_tLyFVmVvaHOSUoUzo27xqZ_jsL/view?usp=sharing)

Just install this by going into settings-\>manage resource libraries

- click import and find the location where you stored the bundle, it will automatically activate
- deactivate the old muses bundle

Now to redo my tag system 😆  
Unfortunately removing resourcecache.sqlite deletes your custom tags not stored in bundles

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**Author:** ![RamonM](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/ramonm/32/236795_2.png) [@RamonM](https://krita-artists.org/u/RamonM)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 9:49am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/question-about-muses-brush-tips/42328/10 "2022-06-07T09:49:03Z")

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Testing here from scratch with a clean resources folder, then i load the new bundle and i see no updates i already did. is that your idea?  
for example in 04\_03 (Oil big) and 04\_02 (Oil small)

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**Author:** ![Konstrukto](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/konstrukto/32/149886_2.png) [@Konstrukto](https://krita-artists.org/u/Konstrukto)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 9:59am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/question-about-muses-brush-tips/42328/11 "2022-06-07T09:59:58Z")

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That’s really strange, what I did was just take your updated brushes and bundle them…  
The idea is to have it easily available to the less tech savvy

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**Author:** ![RamonM](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/ramonm/32/236795_2.png) [@RamonM](https://krita-artists.org/u/RamonM)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 10:08am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/question-about-muses-brush-tips/42328/12 "2022-06-07T10:08:12Z")

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ok,i will review it if i have time.

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**Author:** ![CrazyCatBird](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/crazycatbird/32/26371_2.png) [@CrazyCatBird](https://krita-artists.org/u/CrazyCatBird)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 11:45am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/question-about-muses-brush-tips/42328/13 "2022-06-07T11:45:37Z")

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Are .bundle files still simply .zip or has that changed?  
Just wondering if .bundle could be renamed to .zip then unzipped, the contents replaced with the new presets, then rezipped and renamed to .bundle then imported into Krita? Or is it not that easy? If it is, then that’s cool. If not then too bad it couldn’t be done. 🤷

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**Author:** ![Michelist](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/michelist/32/65826_2.png) [@Michelist](https://krita-artists.org/u/Michelist)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 11:49am UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/question-about-muses-brush-tips/42328/14 "2022-06-07T11:49:41Z")

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Yes, they are still ZIP-Archives.  
And you can try if your idea works. 😉

Michelist

Edit/Addendum: You then only have to determine the hashes of the new files by hand and edit the file “manifest.xml” in the folder “META-INF” accordingly, but theoretically this can be done. 🙂

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**Author:** ![CrazyCatBird](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/crazycatbird/32/26371_2.png) [@CrazyCatBird](https://krita-artists.org/u/CrazyCatBird)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 12:05pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/question-about-muses-brush-tips/42328/15 "2022-06-07T12:05:31Z")

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I was hoping that the names of the updated presets were the same so that they could simply replace the older ones. … Oh well 🤷

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**Author:** ![Michelist](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/michelist/32/65826_2.png) [@Michelist](https://krita-artists.org/u/Michelist)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 12:09pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/question-about-muses-brush-tips/42328/16 "2022-06-07T12:09:22Z")

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It would be easier to create a new bundle, it is not so error-prone and wouldn’t take as much time.  
Hope dies at last. 😉

Michelist

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**Author:** ![LunarKreatures](https://krita-artists.org/user_avatar/krita-artists.org/lunarkreatures/32/231342_2.png) [@LunarKreatures](https://krita-artists.org/u/LunarKreatures)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 12:20pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/question-about-muses-brush-tips/42328/17 "2022-06-07T12:20:04Z")

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You can change the file name to zip and open it however adding things inside in my testing doesn’t work it’s easier to import everything into krita and making a new bundle with everything

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**Author:** ![system](https://krita-artists.org/uploads/default/original/1X/e446d8b3077ddf6dfb5b2cd65199c20095b47dcf.png) [@system](https://krita-artists.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 12:20pm UTC](https://krita-artists.org/t/question-about-muses-brush-tips/42328/18 "2022-06-22T12:20:07Z")

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