Can't see things not on the canvas

Recently I’ve noticed that things not on the canvas (in the gray zones around it) are not viewable while I am working. Was this always like this? Is there a way I can enable the out of bounds stuff to be visible, without increasing the canvas size or changing them to reference image layer things?

I haven’t used Krita in a while, because I’ve been busy with other things, so maybe I am just out of practice, but feels different.

One method is to move it into the canvas. Or, you could enlarge the canvas and after you are done, crop it.

But just to be sure, why exactly do you want to view out-of-bounds stuff? Is there another underlying problem you would like to solve? (e.g. for guides/assistants)

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I was just having issues while moving parts of the image around, and losing them whenever I moved them off the canvas. I could have sworn I used to be able to see them when I moved them off of the page but I must be miss remembering it. Sometimes I would draw some sketches and have them sitting around the next image I would be working on to base it off of.

Thank you for the help

Then it looks like a bug. I personally do not experience this. You can report it and state what you did exactly, and most preferably attach a video.

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The transform tool currently(this is changing…) paints the preview of the layer you’re moving on top of everything, not as part of the image stack, so that shows the contents outside the image boundaries.

The move tool doesn’t have a preview, so it only shows the outline of the layer you’re moving outside the image bounds.

It’s always been this way, except for a very brief moment in 2006 when I made it possible to paint layer contents out of the image bounds, but that was quickly killed by, of all people, the KWord maintainer (Krita was part of KOffice back then).

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Thanks for the help with that. I wish you could easily see stuff, not on the canvas maybe they can add a toggle for that in the future. I might have been miss remembering it or confusing it with another application.

I wish you could forget about the frustration and work it back in because this is incredibly valuable to be able to see outside the canvas for me (actual references are not precise the same way and it’s a lot of work to just put something aside without enlarging the canvas ridiculously.)

If you remember my portrait series my canvas was 4x more pixels than needed to have twice the image in height and twice in width. So with the mac buggy opengl I had to keep the drawing small to hope and have smooth curved lines. Here a video if you don’t see what I mean about the 4x size: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3Qs35GLuXE)

Using the reference feature is in no way comparable to seeing outside the canvas to me.

The big problem is that back then the design of the canvas was changed at the most fundamental level, and changing that back is a huge undertaking.

This was the commit that enabled viewing parts of layers outside the image bounds: https://invent.kde.org/graphics/krita/-/commit/fba2674c713354721a462bd466b73fb5d2254816

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