ClipStudioPaint Artists: What features does CSP have that you wish were in Krita?

Thank you! I didn’t know about this, I will try it out and look to make it work for my workflow!!

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If you want you can create some brushes that exclusively use this mode.

I just recently made an account for this, despite the fact that I was already a Krita user before buying CSP. Bear with me here, since I’m still pretty much stuck on that app due to my obscene collection of materials I downloaded from there throughout the years. Apologies if any of my suggestions seem out of reach. I’m not much of a technical person.

  • A possibility of supporting .sut brushes in some way? I saw a sut brush png extractor on the forum earlier, However I was thinking more of Krita having to replicate the brush to the best of its ability. Even if it doesn’t manage to do something like 2 stroke brushes. (Brushes that have each separate brush tips and their respective settings.)

  • There is a layer property setting in CSP that allows for layers to have outlines that show up at the edges of pixels that are on that said layer, including a setting for the thickness for said outline. (Not to mention applying screen tones and a color switch that would dominate the entire layer, regardless of the hue of the pixel.) Think this could be possible, or is there something like that in Krita already, and I just didn’t know it?

  • More flexible transform options for patterns. Such as being able to repeat the image whenever I scale or rotate the pattern outside of the canvas. (pic below is a visual example from the csp instruction manual
    CLIP STUDIO PAINT Instruction manual - Pattern from Image


    (Again, I’m out of the loop, and if there is something close to this, let me know.)

  • Support for 3D models being used for reference purposes. I know this is a painting program. But putting this here because I know at some point there might be something like this.

  • Might sound silly but what if Krita had a built-in sort of center for downloading community made brushes, color palettes, patterns, plugins etc? It would be nice to have a centralized spot for that kind of content aside from Krita’s manual recommendations and gumroad. (No offense.)

  • I saw a post discussing suggesting a guide for users that are coming from CSP. I’m passing this onto here since I wholeheartedly agree with the idea. A refresher would be nice.

  • The obvious, drawing on vector layers, ribbons brushes, the text tool. (Glad to hear they’re working on that last one.)

To avoid cluttering with further ramblings, anything OP and other ex-csp users have suggested beforehand.

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I have never heard of .sut brushes; only .abr ones, and .gih, and of course Krita’s ones. If the format description is proprietary/secret, there is quite low chance it will be implemented in Krita. Even .abr (and only the older ones) are only read as brush tips.

That sounds like layer style, right-click on the layer, click “Layer Style”, there will be “Stroke”.

Some of it is achieved by Wrap-around mode, but not all, I think.

There is one way to draw on vector layers, which is with Freehand Path Tool.

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This thread? CSP brush png extractor
According to the thread, CSP’s .sut brushes and .clip image files are SQLite databases, interestingly. Meaning, it might not be difficult to extract some of the data from them. However, doing useful things with that data is another question.

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@ CSP users can any of you confirm if this PS brush is available in CSP and if they find it essential?
Two in one spread+blend brush I’d like to have
Shown in PS:

Yes, CSP has easy importing PS brushes. But often you need to make some after-importing tweaking to the brush settings, since brush preferences matching is approximately due to brush engine differences.

Being able to load in 3D models.
Especially to assist with backgrounds in my case.
But being able to straight in the program change angles and poses on the fly are also a huge plus that scratch that artistic perfectionism itch and smoothen workflow.

It’s a quite bit easier to manage and edit text and text bubbles for comics in CSP.
And I’m so used to the assets store.
I’m not even sure where to look to download fonts for Krita yet. lol.

We need more undo’s in Krita.
I loaded up an old work to practice with the different layer modes, and couldn’t undo past what felt like only a handfull of strokes. Unfortunately I had done other alterations I wanted to preserve on the piece so I wound up having to save it with the unwanted strokes on that I will inevitably have to go back and fix manually now.

^ These three are the biggest losses for me. And would mean so much to have back as they significantly help me with making comics.
Other less important things but still noteworthy regarding how I work:

The asset store had a lot more variety in brushes for certain effects you expect in comics, and it was a little more flexible in the kind of brushes (like the ribbon brush) you could make yourself to have your own aesthetic that wasn’t too time consuming. This is a minor but felt need.

Their clip to layer below is also extremely useful, and tutorials for how to do similar in Krita took a few extra steps that I don’t fully understand yet. (Still learning Krita so I apologize if there is already a similar function that is 1 step and I just haven’t found it yet. <3 )

Lastly would be needing to go to my keyboard, upper bar, and dockers a lot less to do things like when selecting transforming and deselecting.
CSP has a convenient non-intrusive little popup whenever you select something with the lasso tool or what have you, that you can even customize with your preferred transform tools/cut/copy + paste/mirror/deselect etc. options right there.
Really cuts down on time when I’m fiddling with things and makes it a little more intuitive.

Also Krita seems to somehow use up more memory or something than CSP because I can work on similar sized images and Krita struggles quite a bit before CSP does, I’m not sure why.
And it makes me worry about how well it’s going to let me make webtoon style scroll format comics since they’re usually quite long in height dimension, and It’s just easier to see the full “episode” laid out and work on it that way rather than breaking it up.

CSP also will auto crop an episode into the appropriate sizes and dimensions for uploading your webtoon, as oppose to needing a 3rd party service to do this for us.
Unless Krita already has this and I am unaware.

Otherwise Krita has everything I need, and I’m confident the rest will follow shortly. :slight_smile:
Again apologies if some things are already available in Krita and I just haven’t learned it yet.
Thank you so much to everyone working on this. I will be donating here and there regularly soon. <3

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You can increase the default 200 undo steps in the settings

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Ahhhh!! Thank you so much!

There’s a very long and detailed discussion of implementing the ‘famliar clipping mask’ functionality here:
Potential improvements to Inherit Alpha in Krita

Essentially, Inherit Alpha can do all that is needed but is more complicated than the simple clipping mask function that is found in other applications.

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Better stabilization and tapering options. As someone who does a lot of line art, Krita feels much clunkier than CSP or (especially) SAI 2. For painting I don’t notice at all really, but for clean lineart it’s very noticeably worse.

I usually end up going with basic smoothing 95% of the time, because the stabilizer modes just feel worse to me, even after extensive tweaking (not a huge fan of dynamic brush either, but I use it occasionally). On that note, the naming of the stabilizer modes and their settings is confusing, and a huge chunk of the range of possible settings I can’t imagine anyone actually using (it gets super laggy super fast), which is poor UI/UX imo.

Secondly, as others have mentioned above, Krita handles large layer counts at professionally sized documents much more poorly than any other software I use. I feel that I have to pretend I don’t have as much RAM as I do when using it, and consolidate layers much more aggressively than in CSP or SAI 2. It gets slow and prone to freezes and crashing where the other softwares don’t even break a sweat. I guess this is down to optimization? Loading and saving is also much slower.

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Hello, what I miss from CSP

  1. The Quick Access Docker (CLIP STUDIO PAINT Instruction manual - Quick access palette operation). You can put what you need (brushes, actions…) with different sets in tabs.
  2. The selection toolbar (floating under the selection). It’s sometimes not handy at all (it hides part of the image) but having quick access to tools is nice.
  3. Some selection tools and functionalities (autoclose, autoclose) but it has been already discussed and I know it’s not possible with Krita’s engine :frowning:
  4. already said : CSP manages big files easier that Krita but it’s already discussed problems
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To be honest, the main draw of Clip Studio isn’t the features so much as the extreme flexibility of the interface, which makes for a better user experience. I can do almost anything in Krita that I can do in CSP…in twice as many clicks (sometimes more.) Especially if you use a drawing tablet with a limited number of buttons for keyboard shortcuts (or no keyboard shortcuts at all,) Krita is a pain to navigate.

  1. CSP has a useful Tool Properties palette. In the main subtool editor I can choose, on a brush-by-brush basis, which settings show up in this palette, which means I can single out the ones that I’ll be adjusting frequently. In Krita, it’s a pain having to shuffle through the entire brush editor every time I want to adjust something more complicated than opacity/angle/flow.
  2. In CSP I can sort all of my subtools into tool groups, which I can then sort into tools. This makes the Tool palette actually usable. By comparison, the toolbox in Krita is a counterintuitive, cluttered mess, especially in the way that brushes are deprioritized. There are EIGHT separate tools for making a selection, all of which can be assigned a separate keystroke. There is ONE freehand brush tool to assign a keystroke to. (Thankfully, ten individual brush presets can be assigned a keystroke through the Ten Brushes script, but the fact that this isn’t native is mind-boggling to me.)
  3. the ability to set keyboard shortcuts to a) an individual subtool, b) a tool group, or c) a tool–again, all of which are customizable in CSP. (Ten Brushes can’t do this.)
  4. the ability to set one keyboard shortcut to toggle between multiple brushes (In CSP I’ve set “B” to switch between a tool group (my custom oil brushes,) a tool (all my downloaded brushes,) and a subtool (the default airbrush.) “C” switches between three different tool groups, and “S” switches between the two selection subtools that I use. With Ten Brushes, I need separate shortcuts for every brush–and I don’t have that many shortcuts to spare.)
  5. Selection launcher. Incredibly useful to not have to dig through the Select menu or constantly switch between the Fill tool and the Selection tool. (And again, you can choose which icons show up here.)

As far as actual features, there are some situationally useful things that CSP does with brushes that Krita still lacks.

  1. The “apply by each plot” toggle for textures
  2. Ribbon brushes
  3. the way CSP’s brushes can use both the main and sub colors–now that they’ve added the “smear” color mixing mode, you can make a two-toned smudge brush (see example here: Clip Studio two-color brush example - YouTube)

There are certain features of Krita that CSP can’t do, and the Pop-Up Palette makes up for some of the UI deficits (at the expense of replacing my usual right click color picker.) But the fact that I have to adapt my workflow to the interface–instead of changing the interface to fit my workflow–is what has kept me from switching to Krita full-time.

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Krita can do it too, just set the brush tip to gradient map mode.

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Ah, thanks! I’ve been going mad trying to duplicate that same effect in Krita, and it’s hard to find something in the documentation when I don’t know what it’s called

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To add to TheTwo, you need an RGBA brush tip - or make your own RGBA brush tip. And set it to gradient map. you can then select FG to BG, or BG to FG in gradient. Then just pick bg/fg color like the vid then paint away. Works best with RGBA brush with clear contrast in color.

Here’s tuto for the brush tip type:

Looking forward to the kind of brush you be able to create. Good Luck ^-^

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The OK and Cancel option in CSP really helpful to confirm the transform tool

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Can “export” and “export advanced” be combined to one dialog box, and remember the previous setting for resize? In CSP this is very convenience.

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Here are the obvious ones …
*) An Eraser tool
*) Traditional clip masking. If it can be multi-leveled, even better.
*) Better Photoshop compatibility. This somewhat linked to the previous point.
*) Proper Photoshop brush import

Ones that I loved in CSP compared to Photoshop …
*) The Liquify tool. Not sure if that one is in Krita already.
*) The Quick Access wndow.
*) The configuration options for the Dual brush.
*) The Mixer window. Maybe in Krita already.
*) The configurable Tool Property window. This one is the biggest “thing” in CSP. It cut my brush list down to about one third at least and sped up my workflow quite a bit. But as this one will be very hard to implement in Krita, I will prbably stay in CSP just for that.

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