Of course, but not all of us are used to using the pop-up palette in that way, the ideal is that there is an option for everyone.
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Guess Iâll throw my random opinion in.
I like Kritaâs eraser methodology. Being able to turn any paint-applying tool into a paint-removing tool is useful and I wouldnât give it up.
But.
There are 2 problems I have with the current eraser-mode on the brush that a dedicated eraser tool would technically be a fix:
- Having a dedicated button to switch to eraser and a dedicated button to switch to brush would help with forgetting which mode Iâm currently using during speedpainting. This can also be fixed by creating âturn eraser mode onâ and âturn eraser mode offâ shortcuts, rather than the âtoggle eraser modeâ button Iâm forced to use.
- A lot of my brushes are textured and never fully fill in the spot with color. This means my eraser is textured and never fully erases what I want it to. I need a way to define a different brush for when eraser mode is on.
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My current solution for this has been to use ten brushes to bind my eraser of choice to âeâ, and then put the transparency painting mode on âcâ (like how CSP does it and because itâs conveniently next to the swap foreground/background color on âxâ).
This is also an idea from CSP, which allows you to make any number of tool preset categories, put anything in them, and bind them to any key, but I think an ideal solution would be allowing the hotkeying of brush groups, grouped by tagging. Each group would remember the last selected brush within it (again, similar to CSP).
IDK how feasible this is, especially because hotkeying brushes at all currently relies on a plugin, but it would allow you to have a tagged group just for erasers, or even multiple groups for different use cases (hard vs soft erasers, etc.).
I know Iâve historically gotten a very bad reaction when I suggest âliftingâ features from other software, but the modularity of this approach solves this problem, and is extremely useful to workflow with all other brushes as well.
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Hello,
If youâre using the ten brushes plugins then maybe you could test my plugin:
The only requirement would be using Krita 5.2, that it still in Beta. However I would be glad if serve you alright, specially if you desire only an Eraser Tool.
About your idea. It is possible, definitely, I even thought of making a plugin 90% similar to your idea, but with some functionalities more.
I just didnât it because a plugin like this would be ârequiredâ to have a Graphical Interface, and I didnât have the experience to make it as my first plugin.
Who knows, maybe this could be my second published plugin (no promises).
Cheers
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Well, ten brushes comes included with the appimage, I havenât installed any additional plugins myself because Iâm paranoid about stability since Krita tends to crash enough already 
(5.1.3 has been pretty stable so far though â knock on wood).
Iâm personally not really interested in the narrower scope of just a dedicated eraser tool, but Iâll try to test your plugin on 5.2 when I get some time.
As for requiring new GUI, maybe it wouldnât if brushes were selected using the current brush docker and/or right click popup? Those already filter based on tag, so maybe they could be made to switch tags in sync with whatever key you press. IDK anything about feasibility here though.
Thanks for your plugin work 
From this weekâs development notes
This looks like our feature request may make it in for Krita 5.2
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Quote from the merge request:
This action emulates switching between a pen tip and pen eraser, which switches between stored brush presets.
Seems not quite the same as this request, it doesnât force any brush to become eraser, more like flipping a stylus with eraser end.
As it reads it is the behaviour introduce in my earlier Plugin.
Even in this request there were users who had this implemented behaviour as their expect Eraser Tool. Not to mention that it seems to be rather annoying/confusing to select a tool, and being âlockedâ with every brush as an eraser. For this just hitting e seems more reasonable.
Just took a look, and while the name suggest an eraser it function as a second âbrush slotâ, independent of the brush selected. It has its charms, not gonna lie.
-Pros:
- Different of my Plugin you only need one shortcut to change brushes.
- If you only select erasers on the second slot is pretty much my plugin (kind of).
- You can use as having two âfavoriteâ brushes to switch from one to another.
-Cons:
- It doesnât check and filter the type of brush selected for each slot
- Pro to one, Con to other.
- The user has to specify the desired slot before changing presets.
- Selecting a Brush donât activate the âbrush slotâ, and selecting an Eraser donât activate the âeraser slotâ.
After thought: Making this into a classic Eraser Tool could be feasible (and easy), as you could force the eraser mode whenever the second slot were active.
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So eraser tag filtering wasnât part of the merge request? That doesnât mean it cannot be added later though.
E: Merge request: Add Toggle Eraser Preset action (!1689) ¡ Merge requests ¡ Graphics / Krita ¡ GitLab
@freyalupen thanks for your work on this! Do you have plans to expand upon your merge request by incorporating the features requestes in this topic (e.g. filter by a (custom) eraser tag/ by eraser brush mode)?
I think the dedicated eraser tool in this request means a separate brush type tool which only erases no matter the type of brush preset from any tag. This tool will have itâs own brush oreset history and options in my opinion. It is different than having the second slot limited to eraser tag or any particular tag.
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@raghukamath I think thatâs what most people would want indeed. But, I would like to synchronise the eraser tool with my brushes docker. I usually pick my erasers from another tag than I do with my brushes. I would like a complete separation of the two, so that if I switch to the eraser tool, I want the brushes docker to switch to the eraser tag and switch back to the previously used tag when I change tools.
This would help to get rid of any eraser brushes in every tag, which I now have to include for getting to my erasers easily. So, that would mean a big tag clean-up.
Brush docker tag synchronisation would also mean you can have textured brushes included in your eraser tag(s) if you want to.
The reason is that I usually use non-textured erasers for precise erasing (I tend to work with many layers so I can decide what to preserve and what to erase). And I would use eraser mode for textured erasers.
@freyalupen would a brush docker Tag synchronisation be hard for you to implement as option in the user preferences?
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That sounds really good!
Iâm not sure if switching the brush category when switching to the eraser tool is the best option. Letâs say I have a âFavoriteâ category, where brushes, erasers and maybe other tools are mixed. When Iâm painting with brush âF1â (a brush from that category) , then use âF2â (an eraser from that category) and afterwards want to use âF3â (a different brush from that category), I would have to use an extra step to get to âF3â, which is to first switch to the brush tool again so that my âFavoriteâ category is visible again. This is a process that happens quite a lot in normal painting but would maybe result in a lot of extra clicking at the end of the day.
But maybe I didnât understand your proposal correctly.
I would think there are 3 options:
- No brush category filtering (i.e. donât change brush categories)
- Change categories to and from the eraser category, perhaps specify the name in an input box (e.g. I label my tags with numbers to order them, so erasers can be â0. Erasersâ)
- Exclude tags from filtering (e.g. you have a Sketch tag which has both erasers and regular brushes, by excluding the tag, the Eraser tool wonât switch if this tag is active)
The idea is basically that in real life if you pick a pencil, youâll reach to a certain box/ tray/ drawer. Markers are in a different box/ tray/ drawer and so are erasers. By filtering tags you get rid of the brushes that are meant to be erasers when you donât need them (when the eraser tool is inactive) (2.). You can enable/ disable this behaviour in the preferences (1.). Moreover, since you can have brushes in multiple cafegories, you can add textured brushes to the eraser category to use in eraser mode (thanks to the new merge request), but you can also have eraser brushes in multiple tags. So your erasers compatible with watercolours can be under the watercolour tag. In that case, youâll want to exclude the watercolour tag from the filtering (3.).
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Iâd certainly go for option 1.
A lot if not most artists have a âFavoriteâ or âQuickâ collection of brushes. And if the program allows it, there are several tools mixed in there. This allows to âone-clickâ through everything that you often need. As soon as Iâm moved out of that list, it becomes much less powerful. You would spent most of the time in such a category.
Iâm not sure. Does Krita have a âQuick Accessâ docker like CSP has, where you can throw in whatever you need? If so, the other two options might be worth considering. If thereâs only one docker, it might get annoying for some user.
Unfortunately, Krita has not this kind of âboxâ, where you can collect everything you often use.
Michelist
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No, you only have one docker. You do have a favourites tag category to put your go-to brushes in.
Thing is, I would want there to be 8 erasers, markers, pencils, some paint brushes, etc. so I end up having to scroll (or set tiny brush thumbnails - not ideal either). And switching tags is done through a dropdown, so thatâs pretty tedious if you need to do that often (cannot be fixed easily either). The only other alternative I could think of is to add subfolders to tags to collapse and expand certain brush folders within a tag. But that would probably be a big change to ths code and sqlite database for the tags.
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Or another brushes docker that you can set to a different tag category. That would also help.
Made a new feature request following this discussion:
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I guess a quick access docker like in CSP would be best. There I have brushes, erasers, rulers, selections tools and even something like âflip horizontalâ in there.
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My take on this idea is;
the âToggle Eraser Presetâ action I implemented switches between a stored âbrushâ and âeraserâ (any preset you choose while âEraser Presetâ is inactive or active, respectively).
Perhaps itâs possible to implement (optionally) switching between a stored âbrush tagâ and âeraser tagâ with this action as well, so that when you switch to the âbrushâ it would show the tag you were choosing brushes from, and âeraserâ would show the tag you were choosing erasers from (whichever tag that might be).
But I havenât looked into it yet, so Iâm not sure how easy it would be.
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