How to create bundle from tag?

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How to create bundle from tag? It’s difficult to know which brush is in the current create bundle UI since names are cut off. It’s also tedious to select all of the brushes every time I want to create a bundle. I might just add one new brush to the bundle, but then I would have to recreate the entire bundle and look for every brush from that bundle all over again.

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You can’t.
But you don’t need to add the brush tips for a preset manually when you create a bundle, Krita selects them on its own. It is therefore sufficient to select the presets. However, if a preset should also use patterns, e.g., for textures, this must be added manually. However, if you still want to have patterns, gradients or other resources in a bundle, then these must be selected by hand.
You can use an isolated installation of Krita to further reduce the selection of available resources. On Windows it is sufficient to use another user account and another portable installation (or version, if you want) of Krita for this, I think this should also work on other platforms if the Krita installation is NOT in a container format, like an AppImage. For Windows, I have described what I think is a convenient way to use different installations of Krita:

For these isolated installations, you remove Krita’s default resources from the installation path before you start them for the first time. If you have already used such a version with the original resources, you must also remove these resources from Krita’s resources folder. Such prepared installations will only start if at least one preset or bundle exists in the resource folder.
For example, using such an installation, I converted all bundles from IForce73 to Krita 5 format.

Michelist

Edit: grammar

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Is there a way to create a bundle based off an existing bundle? I already create bundles using brush presets, but I didn’t know textures aren’t automatically bundled as well, which is weird.

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You can use the second dropdown menu “Local Resources” under “Manage Resources” and select the bundle you want as base for your new bundle.

Don’t struggle with what is, adapt to it! Or create a proper bug report, if this bothers you too much. :wink:

Michelist

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Didn’t know about the local resources option, so that’s interesting, but if you want to create your own bundle from others, I think you’d need to manually add in brush tips when making the bundle, if the plan is then to remove the bundles you based yours from … this makes sure your created bundle is independent and works, once the other bundles are deactivated and manually removed (from krita folder).

Backing up kritadisplayrc, kritarc, kritashortcutsrc and the main krita folder would then ensure you have as light a version of krita running, space-saving for backups, and a good base backup if later want to try new brushes and adapt bundle. Can take a while to do, but I like having a personal offline bundle (or set), plus it would never go online, as I didn’t make the brushes.

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It is not needed, Krita adds the brush tips itself, but as said above when a preset in such a new bundle needs a pattern as texture, you have to add it manually.

Michelist

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I meant about doing this to be double sure, plus the manual said this, in ‘resource management’:

“Make sure you add brush tips for used in the respective paintop presets you are adding to the bundle. If you don’t provide the brush tips then the brush presets loaded from this bundle will have a ‘X’ mark on the thumbnail denoting that the texture is missing. And the brush preset won’t be the same.”

Haven’t tested making a bundle and letting tips be chosen, as had seen referenced at some point on the forum. Making a bundle can be a lot of work, if sorting a lot of brushes/tags etc, and didn’t want to risk redoing it all, lol. If Krita’s adding tips, that’s cool, plus it’ll be great if adding that to the manual, and patterns auto-included, come along at any point in the future.

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I suspect that this fact was overlooked or forgotten at this point in the manual, during the revision from version 4 to 5. But my statement is true, I discovered it earlier this year just by accident, then first I tested it with some bundles, and have used it many times since, and so confirmed.

You are not the first user to mention the manual in this context, at least @CrazyCatBird has done so too.

You can read through @tiar’s posting on this from the same topic, where she names this behavior as a new feature of the revised resource management.

Michelist

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Thanks for the links @Michelist. I haven’t read all of the threads yet, but see the CrazyCatBird link is dated 2019, and that brush tips were auto-added since then! for Krita 5. Can see @Tiar saying about that feature being meant, which is awesome; seems that the feature not being known about is the only issue.

I suspect many check the manual first, especially to find a summary and illustration, as reading through various long threads to find commentary, can be a bit overwhelming or maybe people with jobs and various commitments or situations aren’t able to spend a lot of time researching.

Can’t offer to update the manual myself, as dealing with disabilities/chronic ill health and am a non-technical painter. There are many many features, most of which I don’t know about or are beyond my technical level. Am unsure if opening the manual up to be freely edited by anyone would be wanted or work; it would still need somebody checking the information being entered though.

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The problem is if I try to import my bundle based on brushes I already created in Krita, then it duplicates the brushes. There needs to be a better way to create bundles in Krita.

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I think having an easy way to delete brushes and a way to batch rename brushes would do it.
Easy rename because you can sort using naming convention.

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I made a feature suggestion here for a better way to create brush bundles:

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It is from 19th January 2022… :wink:
…and the links are all from the same topic.

Then, could you please write a bug report, so it gets corrected?

Michelist

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@Michelist You’re underlining my point about complexity … 3 links to one thread gets confusing, hence probably why the date error. It’s already known about the manual needing updating, so there’s no need for me to make a bug report. I’d suggested possibly opening up the manual for anyone to edit; maybe have one person briefly checking entries before they get published, or have one thread here where people can post correct text/illustrations, and, again, one person checking and publishing, rather than countless bug reports and extra threads. All this stuff comes up when only wanted to do a simple, and hopefully helpful, reply to the original question. Relieved to not do that again.

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There’s a process for taking part in updating/maintaining the manual.
@raghukamath described it once in a topic here so maybe he can point to it when he reads this. @wolthera knows a lot about it as well.
I think it involves learning how to use a particular documentation management tool.

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I don’t think batch renaming would help much in this case, as you would still need to locate the brushes in a list that you can’t even filter. For this problem a whole overhaul of the create bundle interface is needed. It’s just not practical or good to use.

Deleting brushes is already easy, if you mean deleting them from the interface as no way to really delete the files from the interface yet… Which for me that needs to be added.

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