So, I tried drawing with the Software Renderer and, honestly, it looks a liiiiiiiitle bit faster. Krita still takes time to react when I push a button but drawing is a little better. But I feel like it could be better. And I’m gonna do big drawings with lots of layers and gonna use brushes who will probably make Krita slow like the splash brushes, blur and things like that so I need to make Krita fast.
So I’m not sure, I update the driver? I could stay with Software renderer but I would prefer to update it.
If you want to do big stuff you will probably hit your laptop’s limits pretty fast, no matter how good you optimize Krita now. I too have big files, both in resolution and layers and they often need more memory than your laptop has in it’s entirety. Digital art can get pretty demanding in terms of hardware which also sets a hard limit on what you can do with the software. However I’m still puzzled why it’s working badly even now when you don’t do much with it.
I remember for HP machines, they sometimes have some weird own software preindtalled which slowed them down a lot and caused problems. Maybe there is something similar with Lenovo. This is the reason I only bought blank machines in the past. All this vendor branding software always caused so many issues for me. Then I simply switched to Linux but i’m trailing off.
Sooooo, my computer is simply not built for digital art stuff?.. I can’t really change it (the PC) now so I’ll have to avoid big-big projects I guess…
I still have to update the graphic driver, no?
As long as you avoid the really big things. Krita normally warns you when it runs out of memory or is getting close too. At the bottom of the window in a status bar, there should be a memory indicator. If you find your self hitting the limit too often, then you probably need to upgrade. For now we should try fixing your current issues.
You still need to update your drivers. Up to date hardware drivers are not only important for performance and compatibility but also for security. So you always should keep an eye on this.
On my creaking desktop that has Windows 10 installed by myself, 2.8GB of RAM is what it uses after it’s started up and settled down. I don’t have a shedload of stuff such as Lenovo Advantage or Bitdefender etc installed on it.
I’ve no idea why yours needs to use 4.3GB just to stand up and stay awake.
If I run krita 4.4.7 and then open an 870 frame animation of 1,700 x 1.060 canvas size with quite a few animated layers, krita is noted as using 1.9GB of RAM and total RAM usage is 4.8GB.
If I play that animation, krita uses 2.8GB of RAM and the total RAM usage is 5.7GB (all as reported by the Task Manager).
So, even with the largish baseline RAM use that your computer has, you should still be able to create and work on ‘medium size’ artwork projects.
In a situation like this, I’d try disabling Lenovo Vantage and Bitdefender to see if that improves the situation.
Bitdefender is probably even running alongside Microsofts own security suite, meaning double impact on every operation done on the system because both are constantly checking every action with no actual benefit in security.
Well before seeing your messages, I installed/updated the graphic driver, restarted my computer and rechanged the renderer and I think Krita works like 30% better and faster now! Except for big RAM brushes (Splash, blur, watercolor) and changing layer, they’re really slow. I’ll still see if I can disable Lenovo Vantage or Bitdefender (I don’t know if it’s a good idea for this one, even if I unable it after drawing cause… It’s the antivirus. The anti-malwhare.) I’ll do it now.
(Decided to do OpenGL btw. Tried the 2 others and I think OpenGL is the best. I could even close the programm in 2 clicks with it instead of waiting for minutes lol)
Windows comes with it’s own anti virus already and it’s good. Running two anti virus doesn’t give any benefits. You could safely remove bitdefender and use Windows’ own thing, in my opinion.
Brushes have little to do with RAM they need CPU, its the thing that does all the processing, all the calculations. RAM is just memory, a temporary storage that is very fast.
Some brushes need more processing than others (like the ones using the smudge engine) especially when they are big. There will be some performance improvements for the smudge engine in the upcoming version 5 (I’m really looking forward to this because I use it a lot) but generally better CPU means faster brushes.
In Krita’s settings there is a slider for the number of CPU cores to use (it’s where you changed the undo memory limit), you should set ot to maximum (it should be by default)
(Ugh, I couldn’t reply before cause I reached the number of replies I could do in one day lol)
I did a lot of searches when I got the PC and it looks like the Windows Defender isn’t really good. Like, for basic protection it’s ok but for advanced protection, no. But I didn’t know it was still running with Bitdefender So, I disabled other apps who were using a lot of memory and changed one last time Krita’s settings : Krita works very nicely now! I think it could be better but I’m fine with it, I’m tired of drawing on my tiny little phone screen lol. THANKS A FREAKING LOT GUYS, I COULDN’T FIND ANYTHING ON INTERNET AND YOUTUBE!!! YOU ALL SAVED MY LIFE! I’m so happy, thx thx thx ^^ Have a nice day/night!
(P.S. : Is there a way to close the topic or to totally delete it XD?)
In theory, yes there is but as long as nobody makes replies to it then it will sink way down to the bottom of the very long list of topics.
Also, it’s a good idea to leave it as an instructive example of what can happen when you buy a modern Windows laptop that’s been preloaded with a shedload of **** on it.
It wasn’t the memory in particular that those other apps were using, they were eating CPU power while you were trying to use krita.
Did you form that opinion from articles written by vendors or ‘influencers’ for ant-virus applications or other security software’?
Be careful who you pay attention to
It was bad once but that was many years ago. It’s what our company uses for our windows machines and I trust our security guy. However, whichever you use, make sure only one of them is running at a time. In the worst case they are checking each others actions all the time, wasting computer resources for nothing.
By the way, you want advanced protection but are you an advanced enough user to configure your anti virus software correctly to get it?
I just put my 5 cents. Mine Krita also starts with 30 seconds. Actually it is longest start app after 3ds Max (couple years ago when I tested, it loads about 1 minute or even more). But I don’t mind, since I have to launch Krita only 1 time per day.
Textured brush, masked brush, blend modes brush, most of brushes slows down after 500-800px, and brushes with small texture (about 50x50) have speed lags in small ‘line’ size. It is uncomfortable at first steps when doing large strokes to find background or mood for the picture. Still most of time I work around 80 - 200px brush size.
So, comparing brush performance with other painting apps Krita has a last seat. And Imho it is only noticable flaw of Krita. Zuki, if you need a ultraspeed painting app I suggest you to try Paint Tool SAI v2, it is literally loads within 2 seconds, and smudge brush with 2000px and even more is not a problem to it.
@Zuki - you can select the post that was the most helpful (or - will be the most helpful for anyone with the same problem) and mark it as “Solution”, then it will appear in the first post (for future readers) and it will also give this topic a nice “Solved” icon so it can be distinguished from the topic list
If you still have the issue with random lines appearing everywhere on the drawing areas, try disabling (Hi-DPI) Enable fractional scale factor in Krita settings under General → Window
The lines were still as slow as before I update the graphic driver but faster than the first time I used Krita. Nothing changed that much…
I said “it works pretty well now” cause it was so long and complicated to fix all this stuff that I decided to just give up and make with it. But I just CAN’T. And anyways, Krita’s features aren’t as good as I first tought…
So with a big sadness, I tried Clip Studio Paint.
I didn’t want to use a paid program cause I didn’t think it was worth it with all the good free ones (And the Internet who kept telling me to just use Krita lol) but I can’t find any perfect ones (for me). The worst is that it’s the best program I tried until now. It runs really well on my computer. And my dad don’t trust free programs. He keep saying “It’s gonna give a virus, they suck, they won’t work, blablabla” and absolutely wanted me to use a paid one.
He “won” as always -_-
But your help hasn’t been useless : My graphic driver is now up to date, I know what to do if my apps run really slowly, I know now a lot more about CPU, GPU, stuff like that and I had people for who to talk in my lonely life XD. Thx a lot guys I hope I did well on saying the truth…
(P.S. 1. I talked about my dad but I’m older than what you think. Just don’t want you to think I’m a kid XD
2. I already tried Paint Tool SAI 2 in the past and I pretty liked it but I prefer Clip Studio Paint.)
@Zuki
Paint tool sai or not, if that machine was mine I would uninstall all Lenovo software after seeing what it does.
Would uninstall bitdefender as all bit programs are a heavy security risk, I have use them in the past and after a couple of minutes things start to slow down. Bit I what you should be worried of not krita.
Windows defender is literally all you need. I have had only windows defender for 5 years alone and I never got a virus. Windows defender is better because all other windows user share their data with it.
Also if you download krita from the official website you will not get a virus.
What program you want to use to paint is up to you but first you should clean your pc.
So, I disabled other apps who were using a lot of memory and changed one last time Krita’s settings : Krita works very nicely now! I think it could be better but I’m fine with it, I’m tired of drawing on my tiny little phone screen lol. THANKS A FREAKING LOT GUYS, I COULDN’T FIND ANYTHING ON INTERNET AND YOUTUBE!!! YOU ALL SAVED MY LIFE! 
