Photoshop common brush transfer, with original brush

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I would not know which protocol your contribution could have transgressed, nope, with it everything is okay!
I just wanted to point you to the absolutely worth reading topic, but unfortunately it is disregarded by many, at least in my opinion.
For users who want to use these brushes or even tune them themselves, this topic can offer a lot. But, as you must have read then, there are repeated questions about the broken link of the first version of this bundle, as well as other questions which users could have answered themselves by reading the topic.
But reading for yourself seems to overwhelm more and more users. My only point was to encourage you to read, nothing more.

Michelist

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Now, that I’ve read again through this topic, I have realized that your last reply contains a question that I did not answer in the way you had expected.
The thing with the Adobe brush Engine and the currently 16 Brush Engines of Krita is, that these do not share the same settings in a way that would allow using the PS ABRs directly in Krita as the brushes they represented in PS.
To use them in Krita, the ABR-Brush Engine has to be reengineered, because the difference between ABR and the engines of Krita are too big to adapt one of Krita’s engines to ABR. And, if I remember it correctly, there was already someone who has begun doing it, but the project seems to be currently on hiatus/halt because of more important things to work on or life in general standing in the way of things one wants to do.

Michelist

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I did not ask this question; My interest in this thread was NEVER to port ABR brush files into krita but in learning how to manually port these brushes by following the brushes provided by the author; let me take you step by step:

1: My first post was a thank you note. Because these brushes are common photoshop concept art brushes that were ported to Krita’s brush engine. Not by porting the .abr file. But by carefully tweaking the settings until you get the same effect as in the other application. These are useful to me because they were photoshop brushes I commonly use. So it was easier for me to understand the new engine (krita) by looking at brushes I used for years ported from the last engine (PS); I could compare the two brushes that act the same in both applications and see what parameters change and what stays the same.

2: Yes I am aware these two are not the same brush engine. But a digital painting brush is a very simple thing; You have a bunch of modifiers to a brush stamp that are common in most if not all art applications. The trick lies in understanding is how many of these inputs and outputs are open for the user to modify. Photoshop’s brush engine was never made specifically for painting. It lacks pressure curves for tablet input; the blending engine is slow and many brush parameters are not open for the user; The engine is very restrictive. But over the years there have been some very ingenuous digital painters that found a bunch of techniques to get around those limitations. So when tackling a new digital painting engine I always default to re-creating a bunch of my favorite photoshop brushes because they are easy to replicate in other engines.

3: In my opinion no one needs to to recreate the Photoshop’s brush engine in Krita. It is unnecessary. It is rare to see a painting program that acts like another one 1:1. It is also unpractical considering krita’s brush engine is more versatile than photoshop’s.

Clip Studio Paint has a feature where you can port photoshop brushes. But this is more of an algorithm that reads the ABR; finds the photoshop settings and replicates them as best as possible in Clip studio’s brush engine. It doesn’t always gets the job done, but it gets the user 70% there. But even with that feature. CSP’s brush engine tackles effects like texture and blending differently than photoshop. You are never “porting an ABR” You are “adapting it’s settings” (I am not asking for these feature in Krita; I am just providing an example of a feature that might be mistaken by users as "having the same brush engine in two applications.)

4: In my opinion Krita should move on to do it’s own thing. The most interesting aspects of Krita are it’s little unique touches that set it apart. But it is natural that when an application becomes powerful enough, users and developers start porting their workflows into it. It is happening to blender. Blender has become so massive you can have some z-brush in your blender and some maya in your blender. It is not a 1:1 copy of these programs, but the application has become ductile enough it can potentially take over the workload from it’s competition.

Amani

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hi. i tried using the link there but i am redirected to the sign in page of onedrive and after signing in it shows that the content was deleted or it expired

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@arita & all having download issues:

It seems that currently there is a problem on the side of OneDrive for which I don’t know the cause. But here it tries constantly to reload the link to the bundle which, after a lot of tries, leads to locking the resource after an uncounted number of tries. This happens regardless of the browser used.

Therefore, I have uploaded the bundle to my cloud. You can download it from there as long as this issue with OneDrive persists:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/3vepbqq4k9tzoxl/Odzuki_-_Odzuki_3.2.bundle/file

@4man1

The most important thing first:

This is also my opinion. Nothing is more important.

The second most important thing is:
It seems that I translated the post, leading to your last post, incorrectly, and so my response was based on my understanding of the translation I made.
This can happen because there are users here from all over the world trying to communicate in a language that doesn’t have to be their own, like me, because English is not spoken everywhere. And since I have to translate the English texts in this forum in order to understand them, such errors can occur. To paraphrase a movie title, something got lost in translation here … :wink:
I just had understood it not the way you meant it.

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I guess, if you read your sentence about the brush engines open-minded and carefully, bearing in mind that the reader cannot know what you have now explained in detail. Then you might realize that it can also be understood as a question about the compatibility of brush engines with each other.
This is the reason for my often very long and detailed posts, I try (at least mostly) to present everything as clearly, easily translatable and unambiguous as possible, precisely because many people here are not native English speakers and have to translate everything (opinions on my contributions could hardly be more different, with some people loving them and others hating them).
And only your now long and detailed post makes unambiguous and clear what was previously open to interpretation.

But, hey, everything is fine, sometimes we misinterpret each other, and we can clarify the things speaking about them.

I know from experience that many users see this completely different.

Summary

For many new Krita users, the Photoshop brushes, with all their shortcomings apart from a few really ingenious brushes, seem to be the best of all brushes. :joy: And that’s why they don’t even think of asking for Krita brushes for use with Krita in a Krita forum. No, statistically speaking, on average two to three times a month people ask why the brushes they have just imported from an ABR are not to be found in the Krita Brush Presets in the Brush Preset Docker. Of these, about one in six had read the Krita manual up to the point where it said you can import ABRs into Krita, but the rest of the sentence was then no longer read, although it still says that Krita can only use the brush tips contained therein (that passage was therefore reworded). And then there can be “very uncomfortable” discussions, depending on the mentality of the user. These users do not realize that they have caused their own problems. But even now, with the reworded passage, they don’t follow the link explaining the meaning of “brushes”:

  • Quote from the Krita manual:

    Adobe Brush Library

    An ABR with multiple images inside. Previous versions of Krita could not load this, but now Krita will load them as a library of brushes.

  • And they are usually not aware that the definition “brushes” in Krita is the traditionally used term for “brush tips”, and not for the “brush preset” that they perceive as “brush”.

But in the vast majority of cases, this is probably only due to two things: they only knew the Photoshop brushes, and they have not yet tapped into the existing sources for Krita brushes.

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Which is not surprising considering Adobe’s massive advertising and all those who only use (sponsored/stolen) Adobe products in their tutorials, blogs, etc. to present the latest trends, tips and tricks, since the only software seems to come from Adobe - which is of course nonsense, but hardly noticeable to someone trapped in this bubble. Adobe does everything to be omnipresent, and that pays out for them.
Another thing is, that there are enough programs that allow using ABR’s and saving as PSD. Be it because they reverse engineered the formats, or be it because they paid Adobe for the code needed to implement them into their software. This is another effect leading to the perception that there are only Photoshop brushes. And this is an effect that benefits Adobe twice over. On the one hand, Adobe gets money for the required source code, on the other hand, users are always kept in the “haze” of Adobe’s product range via these proprietary formats, buy brushes and more in Adobe’s stores, and quite a few switch completely to Adobe sooner or later just because of this, and Adobe then wins for the third time with them. Perversely ingenious and ingeniously perverse.

I alone am aware of well over 6000 published brushes for Krita and its 16 brush engines, and I have to assume that there are countless more brushes and bundles for Krita offered in local/regional forums and asocial media, lying dormant, that we know nothing about because we don’t know the languages used there and can not get our hands on them because we can’t discover them.

Summary

Regularly I’m scraping the web for new brushes for Krita, using the help of translation plugins this got more and more effective over the years.

But honestly, what’s wrong with having the PS engine in Krita just like the MyPaint engine? If it is technically feasible without having to invest too much (time and work), then this would be another reason for many users of other programs to try out Krita or even switch to Krita. And it would be nothing more than brush engine number 17, and not Krita turning into Photoshop or loosing its goals out of sight.

And the many users who have spent (often a lot of) money on their collection of PS brushes have one less reason to stick with PS. So it’s not wrong to make it possible to use them one day, because that will also help Krita move forward. Krita must not lose sight of its own goals, then everything will be okay.

Michelist

Add/Edit: Added new working links.

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When I click the link, it says the file isn’t there?

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:slight_smile: Hello @TommyDoomsday and welcome to the forum!

If I had to bet, I would bet you have not read my posting directly above yours …
… because using the links given there will allow you downloading it from my cloud. I’m even describing the current situation as far as it is known to me.

@Odzuki, are you aware that something is not working with your OneDrive at the moment? It’s not a problem for me to share it via my cloud, I have unlimited bandwidth available there, but I think you should at least know about it.

Michelist

Add/Edit: Link removed, see my next posting above for links.

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Agreed.
For over 10 years, I have been trying to create what I would consider to be the “ultimate freehand airbrush” in Photoshop, and later also in Clip Studio Paint Pro, through importing my best Photoshop airbrushes into CSP and there working further on them to make them even better.
For several months now I have been working with Krita, trying to recreate my best PS / CSP airbrushes I build so far and trying to surpass them even further.
I was successful, meaning the best airbrushes I made so far for me and my style and process of painting I was able to make in Krita.
A reason for that is that the brush engine in Krita, the ability to change the behavior of a brush etc. in Krita are very different to PS and CSP.
IMO, Krita is superior to PS and CSP in many aspects, it would be a huge mistake to try to make Krita exactly as PS or CSP.
Krita should be considered as “industry standard” for smooth, colorful and realistic illustration work as for fantasy and sci-fi, and not PS or CSP.

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Long time no see, I am Odzuki. Currently, due to network issues, I am unable to log into my OneDrive, so I cannot maintain the file link. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Looking back now, I feel that this set of brushes is neither perfect nor particularly suited for Krita. Over the past period, I attempted to reconstruct a new set of brushes that would better align with my painting work in both Photoshop and Krita.:face_in_clouds:

However, significant changes in my life and studies over the past few years have greatly limited the time I can devote to CG painting. I must focus most of my energy on other areas. It may take about three years before I can fully return to my painting journey and contribute to Krita once again.:cold_sweat:

Additionally, I am deeply grateful to you for promoting this set of assets to others during my silence and absence. Therefore, I have decided to entrust you with most of the interpretative rights regarding this asset.

Thank you for your support.:saluting_face:

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@Michelist Hi there!! I was wondering if you could provide an alternative download link for these brushes? It seems that I am unable to download it from the new link provided (might be a persistent issue for everyone). That would be incredible!!
Thank you.

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It seems that you are right and ufile.io has currently some trouble, but usually they will be functional again soon.

But nonetheless, I will temporarily offer the file via the following two links, in the hope that at least one of the links will be accessible in the different regions of the world. If anyone is unable to access these links, please let me know here in the thread, thank you! I will then check other options.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/3vepbqq4k9tzoxl/Odzuki_-_Odzuki_3.2.bundle/file

Michelist

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thanks I’ll try!

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You are right.
It’s not the full brush engine copy that matters,
and it would be better to replicate some interest
aspects of its features from Krita’s own perspective.
Exemple :

Case : Photoshop’s brush engine has a noise
parameter.

Answer : well Krita can later think about its own
noise generation algorithm, and perhaps even
give it better quality than Photoshop. Though
it’s not compulsory at the moment, and it’s
only when the resources allow the R&D to
be done that the idea can be studied and
executed in the lab( coding and testing the
new feature )

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You could achieve it this way:

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No it’s fine… I just didn’t expect it to be chinese

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