Sumie Ink charge

Hi all,

I’m working on some brush presets to add some Sumie strokes to my projects.

All the pressure and tilt can be very realistic but there is one aspect that I’m not being able to reproduce. When painting with sumi (chinese ink stick) it’s very important how you charge your brush, on the tip you add black ink, in the middle half ink and on the base pure water. Applying the correct pressure and tilt you can control how to discharge ink.

I cant find any opacity rule to do that in a natural way.

¿Any ideas?

This is as far as I could get playing with the Sumie preset:

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It seems there is some amount of success in your strokes. I’ll take a look at the brush editor and see if i can manage to mimic sumi-e. @RamonM our traditional media brush expert might also have some tips for this :slight_smile:

The brushstrokes shown are quite good. I have included in Digital Atelier watercolor pack some brushes for sumi e or difussion brushstroke but am not using the hairy brush engine bacause i prefer soft touch and hairy brush give a lot of aliasing and jumps in scale.

Keep testing and let us know what you achieve. Maybe your investigation can awake the interest for some coders to work in this brush engine again. It could have amazing possiblities with some features added. But now in Krita there is a lot of movement so patience is a virtue. :wink: Thanks for sharing

You have more hairy brushes in Krita 3 Bundle. I made them long time ago to show a bit the power of it.
Ramón Miranda: Expressive Painting with Hairy presets in Krita btw this is my old blog. not used actually.

In the future update of Digital Atelier pack i have done some brushes for sumi-e, at least what i achieve as sumi-e.


This picture is done in minutes but you have to understand how the brushes works. A you can see i love soft edges in sumi-e. Of course making a good sumi-e requires time and i think digital it has limits.

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Well, I have some ideas on how to extend Hairy Brush engine, which would let it emulate bristles in the brush better. I even has some preliminary maths for it somewhere. But it needs quite a bit of time to implement it (at least two weeks of work). Perhaps, we could put it into the next crowdfunding campaign?

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Cool result, Ramon :v:

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It would be a super interesting subject to be explored. Nowadays i think Krita has a lot of things being explored, new watercolors by default, resources management, DA update for waterC, RGBA for brushtips and patterns… and much more in the shadows. So maybe is time to not be eager to cover everything and produciong good artwork to promote the features.
Have a nice day

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