Heh, I ran a search on a random art of mine, and ok: my art is part of many datasets. ![]()
I am actually learning stuff for nothing. the first 3 minutes of AI generated characters and rigging for them.
After the nft flop the aí revolution started right away. I do agree this is the most Vendetta move possible to have been done.
Yeah, it’s like playing video game having unlimited health, max level at the start, no fun at all.
Probably good for art related business investors, but because it’s much easier to make those arts, there will be bigger competition on the market, eventually it will hurt their profit as well.
often when i paint anime city backgrounds , i photobash a little bit to get building fronts right …
so i used the stable difusion to create some window fronts for me…
(i have created much more than these few)
since this is a rather robotic and tedious task to paint buildings maybe this is a good case where i still photobash but at least with “original” (lol) content.
on the other hand the ai can also create this
with a bit of overpainting/fixing this looks professional already and its alreqdy hard to be tempted not to use it.
imagine you create dialog, camera , animation etc. all by yourself … now you can have almost pro quality backgrounds with little work
the only thing important about that is to get it onto google glass as quick and possible so we can one day have our anime emulator which turns the world and all people into anime with the power of ai
It could work…
Isn’t every new tool Krita puts out just something ‘to prevent the monotony of drawing’? AI is taking it to an extreme, but not every artist wants to have to paint pixel by pixel, rgb value by rgb value to be a ‘true artist’. Some of us like creating and not just fighting our program.
I personally wish people cared more about inventing new ways to prevent the monotonous tasks. I don’t feel particularly creative when tools don’t work right and I have to spend 60% of my time drawing fixing this and that or doing some massive workaround. If we got rid of that I’d have more time to be actually creative.
Is typing prompts into an ai still creating, though? Just like getting carried by someone else up a mountain doesn’t make you a mountain climber.
There’s a difference in cutting corners with more efficient tools and completely eliminating the process itself.
Anyway, there are parts of the art creation process that are boring but I’m sure that we can all agree that this doesn’t apply to the whole thing, right? I find the creation process and looking where it leads me pretty exciting, actually.
What Mostaqu says in that interview is either ignorant or a prime example of the composition fallacy. But most importantly artists are not just tools who create a product solely to be monetized by someone else. I don’t see how someone with that mindset would create anything to actually help artists, except maybe by accident.
We should always keep in mind who created these tools and why, when using them.
That’s not even about it, he wants to fully replace artists by machines, not automate tedious tasks.
When you remove all the self expression and inspiration from art, it’s no longer art. AI images are not art, it’s just generated images.
To even call all of art process “tedious” is ignorant as hell - it’s not actually tedious, just because you need to put some time into it. Automating too much will remove control, kill creativity and cause art to look all same, derivative.
Current image generation AI isn’t even useful for actually tedious tasks at all. Do you want like to add a detailed fur texture to the character? No use from AI. If you put your art into img2img thing, it will just ruin whole picture, there’s no control.
I’ve actually seen potential for AI to be great tool for automating most tedious tasks, but it simply doesn’t exists. We still have no AI powered mesh retopology, animation inbetween generating or smart adaptive brushes.
I personally wasn’t trying to defend AI creation, I just think the idea that ‘this dev wants to take out the tediousness of drawing, therefore he’s bad’ was dumb. He’s bad because he doesn’t care about what artists want, not because he wants to automate stuff. Good devs know what artists want, which naturally will get rid of the tedious part as they create new tools to help the artist based on what the artist says is annoying.
As a hypothetical thought experiment however, is being creative the act of creating? Or is the entire process of brain to canvas simply an ‘unnecessary’ translation step?
If you could think of something, and it instantly appear on the canvas, would you be creative?
Asking if that counts as art is like asking ‘If humans could talk to each other brain-to-brain with thoughts, would it be a language?’. Both language and drawing are physical steps we have to take to express something that only exists in our head.
Wow, yeah I don’t think anyone’s art is safe. ![]()
TBF it has potential to be real good for referencing, mood boarding, generating quick background. [that’s why my main issue with it [in use as a tool] is knowing copyright and attribution] cause you know i dont wanna use a generated picture and be on hook later for some copyright issue with my use of it.
All good use of AI as tool, they could push more of that but the creator - just have this thing where they seem to want to wipe out part of the people who would probably part of their client…
i have reservations on some other thing with it [ethical and general uneasiness], not help by way it is getting pushed by its makers - very unnecessarily antagonistic to artist for some reason. ![]()
I’ve used Stable Diffusion to add fur to a character by using it only in the places i needed and controlling how much it applies, it’s great for that actually. There’s a fairly amount of control if you search how all the values works.
All the art debate aside and looking at it strictly like a “enhancing what’s already there tool” like filters and textures, it’s amazing for it, just a matter of using it right.
this is just the beginning , ai and robotics will replace much more humans than just garaphics designers and artists.
EDIT : Now that I think more about it, whatever debates that occurs, there’s nothing we can really do. Trying to ‘ethically control’ AI is just a losing battle. We’re just going to have to build a good safety net as Ralek said on other posts. ![]()
Concern has gone ‘mainstream’:
That’s awesome
Tools aren’t good or bad. It depends on how artists want to use it. But it’s harder create something unique. AI copy, paste, mix ideas from people’s head.









