Just saw a dude I used to work with, who can’t really paint/draw. He just posted an paint over of AI generated painting on linkedin that looks pro level, he is using AI prompt for visual development already…I think he doesn’t need to use too much thinking either…
I honestly I would draw the line for ai art being able to register for copyright, (article about ai being copyright in US)
Because that is in an area that it will lead to all sorts of issues legally.
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The Association of Illustrators has said the UK Government is proposing a harmful Text & Data Mining exception to copyright which would allow bots to copy your online images and use them to ‘train’ AI and possibly create new images to use commercially. There Tweet about this is here:
They have made a survey for Illustrators to fill in here so they can collect evidence to fight these changes: Microsoft Forms
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I wonder if this will clash with EU or USA law on the subject. That could be interesting.
This is local (UK) legislation of a specific nature that will benefit a small number of ‘players’, currently. So, I also wonder where the money and/or influence is coming from to get this kickstarted.
The AOI is a UK organisation and has a website ( theaoi[dot]com ) but I can’t find any information about this there. (Maybe I didn’t look well enough.)
I find it sad that important information is doled out on Twitter and Facebook nowadays.
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We live in interesting times:
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Another infamous use of AI art, defiling the legacy of dead artists
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Now we have: Screenshot an artist’s mid-stream then put it into AI to finish and post it before the original artist, wow.
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So I guess I have to correct my previous statement. AI “artists” actually can be creative, when it comes to being absolutely shitty people.
Btw here’s the original:
And the person stealing even doubled down on it.
The offending account is fortunately gone already but I’m pretty sure will pop up in another form again.
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Is the one of my way of seeing my situation, our situation.
Just when i started to think that my art is getting better, my motivation just got evaporated.
For the past week, pixiv has been flooded with new account that just has been made since yesterday, or just the past few days. And all of them has posted in a number that even many long time user can’t match.
And as you guessed it. They posted their AI commissioned art. As it stand, by the end of the month. Their number would probably skyrocketed even more.
By the way, I say that they are posting a “commissioned” art because they literally just do that. Commissioning art.
They give the specs (with prompts, base pic, sketch).
They put money (or request if the service is free).
And they demand the result.
That is literally how commission works. The difference is instead of human, they give it to machine.
Just like commissioning work to someone doesn’t make you an artist. Commissioning a work to machine doesn’t make you an artist too. More so if you just accept the result “AS IS” without any further compositing.
For now, because of how new it is. Many people still kind enough to give them a proper tag like **
#NovelAI #Nyaai #stablediffusion #AI
**
But this kindness would probably not hold for long. But, long after AI commissioned art has been recognized as legit “your own creation” these tag would disappeared.
But as we all know. AI can generate image by replicating sample that they have eaten and mashing them together until the result fit the prompts. Making anyone, with the right keyword can have their work fit some style, models, vibe or anything to looks exactly like they imagine. . .
**side note, one of the service has admitted that they feed arts into their AI without any of the creator permission.**
Or. . . . . . looks like the arts made by their favorite artist.
Just like the sample below.
From my amateurish observation. The AI generated image above is pretty much a mix between the art made by
And. . Miv4t
Well, whoever the base sample come from. Right now, with the right keywords. Everyone and anyone can become THEM. Of course without having to put years of training like the original creator.
As of today, the AI can produce anything from the image that obviously AI generated. To something that looks like something made by god level artist.
What i’m so afraid of is. After everyone’s work got scanned (probably already) and the AI can replicate everyone and making anyone can become whoever they wanted.
Can the original artist’s mental still holds up after their ‘unique’ style no longer only their own?
Can their motivations still holds up after realizing that. While they need to put hours or days for a single work. Some clueless people can churn out 200 picture with their style in a single day?
Will their passion holds out?
Will they still kind enough to post their art outside of a commercial use?
Would they still even draw?
Or. . . would they just gives up and become AI Artist EDITOR?
Setting aside me my motivation who just got evaporated after realizing that my art just become worthless. (They were so average it was disposable). I don’t want the people i have followed like.
ぐらしおん
日下氏
あやつき
カントク
Miv4t
どろっぷくん
和武はざの@白聖女アニメ化
まふゆ
佐倉おりこ@単行本発売中
And hundred others to also lost their passion and feel that their creation has become worthless because everything become a mass produced goods.
Also. . . . I’m also afraid that in the future (which doesn’t sounds far at all). Many aspiring artist would just gives up and as you guessed it. Take the easy way out and. . . . . . . . . you can see it for yourself.
I can see how people in the future can’t even hold their pentab (if it still exist) like how we can’t make use of real brush. Or like, in theory you can change your own tyre. But you would probably not going to. If there’s an easier way, why bother with the hard way?
Pondering about this topic also made me realized.
We are just at the start of the 2xxx years. It only have been 20+ years since 2000.
We in the era of a massive transition like what happened in the last century.
And we, are just like horse carriage maker in the brink of car industrialization
50 years from now, we probably would be in a history e-book and referred as people who make arts with “primitive technique”
Of course all this doom and gloom come from the perspective of a failed artist. For people who can’t but need some picture but they can’t make it themselves. It was a blessing. The commoditization of something has always been a blessing for a customer.
Only this time, we are not the customer.
The art of making things manually would survived. Though it will become a niche genre probably. Like anything that has been replaced by mass manufacturing in the past.
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Yes. Humanity will have to think hard about the meaning of life now. It’s not just arts. In every endeavor we engage in there will be machines that can do the same thing faster and as good or better than we can.
Perhaps we will have to accept that anything that we do is just a hobby, a way to pass time while machines do the real work.
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AI commissioned artworks is a pretty good term.
AI can do impressive stuff but it’s not even close to those we often call god tier artists because those artists actually know how to draw a hand, and feet (where fingers and toes go and how many of them) unlike AI generated images.
https://twitter.com/Thuminnoo/status/1580307221665107968
AI image generators have a pretty hard time with styles where accuracy matters. They’re better with the more abstract styles of impressionism or with expressionistic works where those mistakes look like intended.
In a not so bleak future I can still imagine real artists getting work, even in a world with perfect AI just like there are still custom and human build cars, despite the invention of automation to a level where humans barely do anything on the production line.
The difference between AI generated images and human made art would be the difference between a Toyota Corolla and a Königsegg Jesko. However this also implies there will be very little successful artists remaining in this high class business, unfortunately. People always craved what other people can’t have and since everyone can have AI generated image, what’s the value?
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They may struggle with anatomy right now, but with how massive the data they can eat. It’s no surprise if it can be fixed tomorrow. Not to mention, we will probably going to have a dedicated AI EDITOR in the market soon.
The massive dataset however is polluted with wrong anatomy since this is a thing many artists struggle with too, and their images in turn are fed to the AI again. The AI has no notion of what a hand is, only that there is a set of tubes growing out of a bigger tube and usually connected to some other tube. So these AIs are actually not very intelligent at all, it can’t improve from it’s own mistakes like an actual artists unless it gets a sense of what it’s actually doing. I don’t know how this will change in the future, though, my own endeavors into machine learning basically ended like this meme
The AI image editor however would have to be an artist of some kind again. So, this would shift what artists do with their work, not putting them out of work. Don’t get me wrong, I still think that would be sad, just cleaning up behind a image generator.
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Is it just me, or does it feel like there’s a lot of doom and gloom over mathematically generated artwork?
Humans are a tough bunch.
We overcome obstacles.
We turn every wall in our way to a step to elevate our skills.
If you’re just throwing things together without thinking about it, then yeah, machine art is a concern. Grow. Know thine enemy. Use it. See what it can and can’t do. Build on it with your own skills.
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For me AI images are like instant noodles. Sure you can pimp it up a little with your own skill but you never get rid of the aftertaste of eating cheap instant noodles.
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I also got the impact on my mood by those AI generated flood.
But then I told my self: I should only worried being replaced by a tool if I think myself is a tool.
And I enjoy the challenge during creating artwork, and surpass my last piece.
Watching those “AI artworks” by my text prompt is just like watching others work, they are good-enough, but…not my own work. (they are fun as an inspiration pool, to be honest)
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I mourn the death of an industry (just as the digital camera killed film and the automobile killed the carriage and the electric light killed the whale oil industry) but I do not do my art for the industry or for money, but for me.
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What we can do, they will able to do it. Faster, better and most importantly. .cheaper. You can hone your craft to the finest level. But many doesn’t even looking for the finest thing and and are satisfied with good anything good enough.
And the more they make, the more you are likely to ge buried under the flood.
Ofc working your ass off for your own satisfaction is admirable enough. But having no other people also appreciate your work is honestly kinda sad and lonely.
Can we merge this in the other ai thread?
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