Transitioning to digital art

So I’ve been drawing until I left high school, which is about 7 years now. For the longest time, I haven’t kept up with it because I’ve been discouraged by my skills getting rusty. At one point, I bought a drawing tablet that I figured I’d pressure myself in getting use out of. I got use out of it as a second monitor. As of a few months ago, I’ve done some work on paper for an online art class I took. Now, I’m forcing myself to draw on my own, lest my skills get rusty again.

I have a drawing tablet with a large screen sitting to my right. I thought getting a larger screen than what I had before would help. While it’s certainly better, it’s only now that I’m learning I need to start off right. I have multiple things I’d like some advice on, but I think the first thing is this:

Would you recommend that I do the first sketch on paper and import that as the layer? When drawing on paper, I found I kept wishing I could just ctrl+z a mistake, but when drawing on a tablet, I find my movements are not as precise as I’d like.

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Hi @Dragon_x62 - Why not draw both ways for a while? Start a couple of drawings in Krita, then draw a couple on paper. You may find one way gives you more pleasure than the other.

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I used to draw on paper first then scan my drawings into the computer, then color it in on the computer as if I were using real media (all on one layer).

After I got used to that, then I started doing my drawings directly into the computer and coloring it in.

As @sooz said, draw both ways for a while. :+1:t2:

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Transitioning from traditional to digital is always rough.

You could could always map out you keys to whatever you want to later or buy a separate keypad remote(I think I could be wrong what it called.)

Regardless, transitional wise your best bet in making ti smoothly; is using brushes that mimics traditional feel. Like a pencil brush or a water color brush.

Though it probably better to not the use the round brush at the start. At least, until you get used to the opacity feel to them.


Though what @sooz and @CrazyCatBird tips/suggestions are extremely helpful too.

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What’s not good about the round brush? (Basic 1, 2, 3, 4 or Wet Circle? :thinking:) Those were the first ones I played with when I started out with Krita. Just wondering…

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Their are great brushes but in my experience when I first started doing digital art. Although this was back on a different art app/before I decided to take art seriously. I didn’t know they have opacity/transparent feel to them. So when I save the art piece with transparent art in PNG form. Well let just say if I were to upload art piece online/share the background/shadow of a website will mess up the pastel feel to the colors.

And at the time, I don’t think there was an good art tutorial on how to use round brush either. Though I do remember being frustrated that I couldn’t get crisp transparent art, at the time without the colors being messed up.

I’ve never experienced that.

Can you show an example of crisp transparent art? :thinking:

Something like this

but instead of background it sorta transparent.

stuff like this
https://www.deviantart.com/crownprince-chan/art/RENDER-Kitaouji-Sakura-Aikatsu-552181015

https://www.deviantart.com/minjaecucheoo/art/28102017-Render-Anime-66-712057617


What was I trying to do back then was to make the character but without an background, rather the background is transparent according to each website.


but instead of the examples
I would get

or this

Because at the time I didn’t know about having to fill in the character first before doing the transparency png.

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Oh yeah, I have seen that. I think I either made the piece a .gif or made sure there was a colored background. Seeing that showed me where I needed to fill in those areas by making sure that they are opaque. :+1:t2:
(I’m gymnart on DeviantArt btw… Notice my Spotlight painting - it was done in Gimp and I did have to go over the slightly transparent areas and make sure they were opaque).

Anyway, @Dragon_x62 , you would have to be aware of slightly transparent areas and fix those up by adding a background layer in a different color so that you can see those areas easily. :+1:t2:
P.S. for making a color appear lighter, don’t use opacity, just add some white (move color picker closer to the white range).

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I may not be fully ‘on the ball’ with this but maybe something like this:

You can easily make a silhouette mask by doing colour to alpha to remove the original white, then do Select Opaque Replace to get the greyscale silhouette after converting the selection mask to a paint layer then use Levels to make that fully white then a bit of manual touch up with white paint, then invert it.

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I haven’t tried the transparent mask before,
My method, for making a “crisp” transparency, has been closing off my outter edges of my sketch, Then use a selection tool, to select my blank area, invert the selected area and shrink it by a few pixels, then, create a layer under the sketch, to do a fill in, then a layer between the fill layer, and sketch to do colouring. That usually eliminates a lot of the worry for the white edge, when you shriink the selection in some, though cleaning that white fill background still might be needed after you add in colours.
here is probably a much simpler method, but it is what i am used to now hehe.

As for sketching first, then scanning etc, that works, but I’ve gotten to the point of loving my digital work much better now, just because, I can zoom in, I can create layers and delete them if I’ve messed up without losing my original sketch(es) Some of my projects before I commit it to a single image, has 20+ layers at times, just so I don’t accidentally ruin my project.
My early digital work, one piece in particular, I really liked how it turned out, but, I painted it on the actual white background. Not on a layer. I later had a request as someone wanted it on a mug. Placing it on a white mug was no problem, however, the request was for it on a mug with a black base.
I think I spent more time, cutting and erasing around that imagee to touch it up, that I had originally spent painting it.
I am a big fan of using layers for htis reason now.
And while, you may think now, " no worries I am not planning on needing a transparency" It is best to plan ahead. krita save files, are great for that, they will preserve yoru layers, and when you are happy with the result, you can export to png or jpeg etc… as needed.
Also, a layer is handy for if you need to revisit the project in any way later.
I do calendars, that are themed about a pup, its parents, the farm animals and wildlife surrounding the area. There are items in the sketches I will want the same, ( like the farm house , some certain destinct trees, etc ) and if these are saved as layers, I can import that layer into a new art piece as needed, to adjust, or recreate, where that is needed.
One problem with sketching and scanning, is those pieces, are not a transparent asset that can be re-used.
I use a drawing monitor ( huion kamvas 22" ) and love it, though, my power connection is developing a short which is worrisome.
I’m considering now, a standalone art device once I can afford that.

I would also, watch the krita tutorials, specially on brush making. While you may or maynot be ready, the right tool, can mean everything to your project.

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The transparent layer/mask conversation is going amazing, @Hoppa_Joel @AhabGreybeard @CrazyCatBird
Though it might be better to switch to a different forum to discuss more on this, cause were are kinda steering away from the main conversation/topic here.

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I believe this does have merit for someone starting out in digital.
considering, layers are what I lacked learning about until II’d completed way to many pieces I’ve since had to return to and correct, which is a time consuming task.
Perhaps, we can just add in more good “just starting out” suggestions here?

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Good call.
When it came to starting out in digital art the interface of art apps was biggest hurdle for many, including my self.
Though there are lot of art tutorials that available today how to use certain art apps.

Yet best tutorial/starting out art advice wise in digital artis to calibrate the pen as well update whatever os the drawing tablet program; , if you own a drawing tablet. I know with xp pen and huion brand you might need to update manually. (I might be wrong on this)

Wow, this thread blew up (As well as getting off topic.) So let me address some things.

Yeah, that’s just it. I’m not going digital to mimic a feel. I actually want to get used to precision and consistency. (Plus I am unfamiliar with using water colors and I am TERRIBLE at using different types of pencils)

Yeah, I don’t have supplies for coloring now. I was never truly satisfied with colored pencils and I couldn’t exactly start painting in between classes during High School. I’ll certainly try both ways for sketching, but it’s clear to me that I prefer coloring digitally with what little I’ve done. So that being said…

…this probably what I’ll end up doing.

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Okay, I’ve been having difficulties getting myself to work, partly due to important work taking priority but also a personal reluctance to actually start drawing. I got to work and I was surprised how much I remember about drawing characters, but I also now remember why I wanted to transition to digital. As much as am struggling to learn the various features of my tablet and the program, I find I’m a lot more confident in my work when I can zoom in and make precise adjustments.

All that being said, should I bother learning pressure if my previous experience was mechanical pencils? Should I actually learn how to use brushes when I’m going for an anime art style?

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should I bother learning pressure if my previous experience was mechanical pencils? Should I actually learn how to use brushes when I’m going for an anime art style?

Sure, why not expand your skills? Just play with it, have fun, then see what artwork ability comes from it. That’s what I’ve done. :+1:t2: Don’t be too serious at first.

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