I’ve recently been advised to use Nightshade and/or Glaze on my artwork before uploading it online anywhere. I am not familiar with either, other than I knowing they help disguise your art from AI scrapers. Has anyone else used these tools and have any thoughts about using it for our work? Should we be using them?
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I can not give you any advice, only my thoughts on it.
I don’t know if the hassle to apply it is worth the outcome, because it is said that both methods are already reversible (but without giving a proof). So those who want to scrape already will have the means to do their evil nonetheless you were applying it or not. But it may help against “the small” gangsters who want to copy your art, the big guys will very probably laugh about this attempt.
I have to admit that it is not a nice situation to know that you are always the one who runs behind the bad guys, not in front of them having a chance to escape.
Your photorealism pics don’t need it, they can use photos to do photorealism.
Another issue is, that the big players already will have enough of your works to replicate your style(s). The good thing is that you work in so many different styles, and that makes it hard.
Michelist
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This reply and the links in it, in another topic, may be useful to you even though the topic is about using Nightshade/Glaze on Linux:
Anyone got Nightshade to work in Linux? - #9 by Mythmaker
Also, the link in this reply to another topic here:
Assassin - #5 by rohithela
As usual, the internet will be your (sometimes confusing) guide.
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People who say that nightshade doesn’t work most likely just don’t want artists to use it. Not so long ago, I’ve seen a video title card on youtube saying “why you should never sign your artwork”, and though I didn’t watch the video, I guess this is another misinformation campaign to make it easier to train cleaner AI models (because mangled versions of artist signatures will appear on some of AI-generated art and AI-bros just don’t want that). So yes, do sign your work or put a watermark on it where it will definitely give headache to AI-model trainers.
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I think using Glaze could make sense if you are popular artist with very unique recognizagle style that people might try to mimic. I checked your instagram and that look for the most part is already covered by AI models.
Nightshade on the other hand could make sense but it’s going to work long term. I used it on low setting for some art I post on Instagram. There is some research that says companies might run out of quality data to train AI by 2026. They will be searching for more eventually so some percentage of poisoned images could add to the trouble of gathering good data and reduce quality of models.
As for ability to remove Nightshade or Glaze that Michelist mentioned. In case of Nightshade the bot going through Instagram is going to download hundreds of thousands of images. I don’t believe for this amount of images it will be worth for people to check every single one if it needs poison removal. It would be extremely tedious.
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I watched a video on using both Nightshade and Glaze (the video is here) from LavenderTown and I remember oen of the top comments was along the lines of don’t tell people your using Nightshade and Glaze, its more effetive that these AI bros don’t know what is poisoned and what is not, causing these systems to hallucinate and produce unusable results in a manner that makes it much more difficult to work around.
I remember seeing a quote along the lines of “I want AI to do my laundry and dishes so I can do fun things. Not AI to do fun things so I do the laundry and dishes.”
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