Using photobashing, making 3d background in blender and put into art work is illegal in art community?

[Thoon_Aung]

Using photobashing, making 3d background in blender and put into art work is illegal in art community? I saw a lot of artists(like really really god like artists) use photobashing and make their own 3d background in blender and put into their art work.

[Michelist]

I don’t see a reason why this should be forbidden, at least here in the forum it is more than once declared as a usual tool in the creation of art.
The only issue are some people “believing or claiming” this is evil, bad, forbidden, and stating “real artists won’t use this”, a statement that is absolute nonsense.

Michelist

[Thoon_Aung]

So, if I don’t care about others, I can use it?

[AhabGreybeard]

“… in the art community.”
Which ‘art community’ are you talking about? There are many of them.
Are you asking about this forum?

Using something like Blender to make a 3-D model of a scene and then using a rendered image of that as the basis for a painting is not ‘photobashing’. That is a different technique.

If you personally use Blender to make a 3-D scene image and use it as a guide for your painting using krita then that is acceptable on this forum.
You should state that you used Blender to make the 3-D scene structure.

It would also be nice if you showed a screenshot of the 3-D scene in Blender.

Here is the relevant section of the Code of Conduct:

9. Post Only Artwork Done With KritaSince this is a Krita forum you may not post anything that is not done in Krita or at least used Krita as complementary tool for example while doing a 3D artwork with blender. The majority of the work should be done in Krita. There is an exception for Traditional category, where you can post artwork done only with traditional mediums.

[Michelist]

@AhabGreybeard has good points and questions, too!

Here, I’m looking at this from the emotional side of things. And you should ask yourself, for whom do you paint? For yourself and your enjoyment of art, or for the peace of mind of people you probably don’t know and who themselves probably have no deeper insight into what art is and how it is created.

Mostly, these people want to bother uncertain artists, I strongly believe.
Quasi from the second work of art ever created, the methods criticized by these alleged art connoisseurs (not seldom self-proclaimed) are also used over and over again, and even used by the best of the best artists, who often enough confirm this and consider it a valuable means and tool.

Michelist

[Thoon_Aung]

Thank you. I feel a lot better.

[raghukamath]

There is nothing wrong in photobashing, tracing, using 3D models or using any other things to create something for yourself. However there are limits to the resources that you use. For photobashing, you need to have license and permission of the photographer to use the photos, same for 3D models unless it is purchased or made by yourself, you need permission and license to use it. You are free to do anything as long as you follow law.

If you are talking about this forum, then this forum is about krita so your artwork must be made in krita. For others there are many other forum where you can share artworks not made in krita.

[Strike-FR]

I dunno, I was literally taught photobashing in my matte painting classroom back in uni in my animation and VFX course.

It’s an industry standard practice. You do need to have source images that are of your own though, as I needed to make a field trip to snap some photographs of the locations I intend to make photobashes out of to make for the background in the making.

If going out to places and snapping some photos aren’t an option for you, best option is to look for free stock images you can use.

I mean it’s good to actually do background painting in learning to understand things like how overall compositions of the big picture is important or something, but it shouldn’t be a roadblock if you need something to be accomplished efficiently and painting a whole background from scratch won’t cut it. 3D models and the like should be used as aids in accomplishing the final task, not as the main point in ethics discussion on whether it’s right or wrong.

If you do use a copyrighted stock image without permission, then I’d say problems lie in that. But if you go out and photograph a general location people are known to just snap photos everywhere for use in your work, I don’t see why using that photo would be a problem in your work, in fact you should be using it as such in creating the work you need with it.