Will we have the possibility in the future update of krita to have saved file in csp format?

[Tifoo_studio]

is it will be possible one day?

[Takiro]

Unless the specifications are made public , no.

Even if we can somehow figure it out. Krita and CSP have different features which don’t translate sometimes, so you get something like the PSD export where only a minimal set of features is actually supported, when saving.

[Michelist]

Hello @Tifoo_studi, and welcome to the forum!

Also, I think this will not happen anytime soon, but since the format is known, it seems to be SQLite databases, someone could develop an appropriate plugin themselves. But beside of that, the restrictions named by @Takiro are still true.

CSP brush png extractor

Oh, that’s funny – csp brush files are sqlite databases, just like clip studio image files

Michelist

[AhabGreybeard]

The .kra file specification is open and public so maybe you can ask the CSP developers to Open and Save .kra files

[Takiro]

The actual layer stuff is not public

CSP brush png extractor

The actual layer format for clip studio files is not documented, but it’s pretty fun to actually look inside a file, and see, for instance, how they store text: it’s just plain text with hard-coded linebreaks, like in Krita, and a separate field in the database for the font for that bubble. As for brushes, I doubt that Clip Studio brushes really have more parameters than Krita brush presets.

And I also remember seeing somewhere that CSP encrypts most of their data with a key embedded in their software and while it’s possible to extract you can sail into anti piracy law waters pretty quickly.

[Michelist]

Sorry for being Off-Topic:

@Takiro

CSP encrypts most of their data with a key embedded in their software

It would be a harsh bummer to encrypt the files users create. This way you hold your hand on their work, in my eyes that is unethical. Or is it more like a hash, a signature?
However, if I am informed correctly, even now, with Celsys’ new business model, you are allowed to use the currently purchased version indefinitely. So you can at least export your data via another format, TIFF for example, and further edit your works in other software. I guess this is their legal protection against accusations of taking works created with CSP hostage.

Michelist

[Takiro]

@Michelist

It would be a harsh bummer to encrypt the files users create. This way you hold your hand on their work,

Exactly. Encrypting files is common to make it harder to reverse engineer the files. Sometimes it’s for preventing cheating, like in games, sometimes it’s to lock in users or lock out competitors.

[TheTwo]

Unless CSP opens up their functional code… otherwise we will only get a .clip file with only basic layers, which is meaningless. Why don’t you use PSD for exchange.

[halla]

I know for certain that Paint Studio SAI encrypts file contents…

[Michelist]

I find that outrageous! And I also don’t understand at all why one does such things, except perhaps if one wants to disguise to use unlicensed the technologies of others, possibly superior to the own abilities, without wanting to be caught thereby.
The money is not earned with having a file format, apart from Adobe’s PSD, but because someone offers an innovative or particularly well usable software, a software that satisfies the clientele.
But maybe I’m just too naive to understand such things and the thought behind them.

Michelist