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That’s what I was going to tell you, in the case of my Huion tablet, it comes with 10 replacement tips. 5 hard plastic and 5 felt, which gives that paper feel. But it’s nice to know that it works with a sheet of paper or buying a protector for this, even if it’s not a screen tablet.

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Thanks for the tip, wakocima!

I used to tape paper to my tablet when I was still on Huion H950P. It used a bit cheaper pen that only supported plastic nibs. It felt really slippery and it was easier for me to draw with a sheet of A4 printer paper on top. However, the friction was really significant, so it was awkward at first.

Also at that time, I was still rather new to pen tablets and was really struggling with using the device. It’s possible that with my current experience I wouldn’t mind the plastic nib anymore.

After I switched to Huion Giano G930L I started using gray felt nibs, and these felt really good on that tablet. Then, with Wacom Intuos Pro PTH-860 I actually went back to plastic nibs because the friction was good and putting the nib down was smoother than with the felt nib which was a bit “scratchy”. So it all depends on a specific device and one’s subjective experience.

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All this talk of pens and papers, I have so much to learn. I bought my apple iPad and pen September 2023 and used Procreate which I love. Then this September I bought my Huion Kamvas 22 and pen and use with Krita which I also love, so it’s all very new to me and a massive learning curve. The information you guys all have is slightly mind boggling, but I love learning and painting.

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Keep learning, but at your own pace. Don’t overload yourself with information. Enjoy the process and learn as it comes along.

It doesn’t matter the tablet, the app, the budget, the size and the pencil, with all of them you can create great works, use the one you like the most and makes you happy.

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Thank you for your reply, it was lovely and so true. I shall keep on learning at my own pace and keep on loving what I am doing.

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There’s a certain phrase I often use, which is “the true death of an artist comes at the point in which the artist stops learning”. It’s not just for art, but it applies for our life as humans; the moment we stop learning, we die.

So with that, I wish you all the best, and hope you never stop loving your growth! :kiki_love: If you ever have any questions, never be afraid to ask. At this point I feel like I learnt so many things about such a wide range of software, but there’s still so little I know in the grand scale of things! It’s so wonderful, in a way. Currently Krita is my best friend even if I can’t use it on my iPad, since I can freely learn all about it. I also don’t think I’ll be switching to Wacom in the near future; Huion offers me everything I need at the moment (although oh how I wish I had multi-touch and pen rotation…)

All in all I learnt some tips and tricks throughout my time as an artist but listing them all in a single post is an impossible task; but, if you give me your device I could probably have some knowledge to share!

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I find learning so important as you get older, keeps the mind active. What you wrote is very true and beautifully written. Any tips and hints are always welcome, I have a Huion Kamvas 22 pen display, massive learning curve in connecting and setting up but I did it. It has been wonderful learning how to draw and paint digitally and to use krita, also the interaction on Krita community is great.

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All which you’ve said is true!
Krita is probably the only “social media” community that I come back to. I used to be a lurker, but I’m happy to come out of the shadows now!

As for the Kamvas 22… not sure if you’d find that sort of setup as useful as I did mine, but North Bayou arms are a godsend for me. I can easily move from my desk back to bed, although I need to get another one to connect ‘em for more distance. The thing is, you can’t buy these:


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And instead, these:


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The latter goes all the way down and makes it possible to work right on your desk, or (with some support) standing up! They are a tad wobbly when in the air obviously, but I rarely ever work without any monitor support ( I either use my legs for support, sketchbooks, or just my desk!)

As for the surface, I mentioned the custom size paper foil. I bought it cause my Kamvas 20 felt a little too glidey for my tastes, and the foil when sanded down offers enough friction not to be “squeaky”, and at the same time I don’t burn through the nibs as fast. Also I prefer my screens have as much protection as possible, so this was a perfect middle ground!


For the workflow, I also always, ALWAYS recommend using a joystick. It sounds silly, but a controller (can be a cheap bootleg!) together with joytokey, can become the cheapest macro keyboard you’ve ever seen. In CSP I use it for quick layer toggles/movement, brush size, and switching between brush groups; in Krita, I mainly use it to run scripts or for plugin shortcuts that I honestly don’t have the memory space for.

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How does that work? :eyes:

Do you mean those classic flight simulator joysticks?

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I use this one, a PowerA xbox one controller!


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This way, the xyab are brush groups, the pink d-pad is for brush size/density/opacity, the sticks I use for navigation (between layers) and canvas zoom/rotation/mirror, bumpers are for either quick brush favorites (left) or erasers (right), while the Xbox/view/menu buttons I usually reserve for actions (like save as, export, gradient map layers or other adjustment layers, etc.)

These are all situational and I have several separate joytokey configs for different software. This kind of setup is ESPECIALLY useful when I’m in blender (remembering all the 3d software shortcuts is a big pain in the ass for me).

SMALL EDIT — I only mention the brand of the controller, because you can get whatever cheapo controller. I just needed an official xbox one to play TBoI with my wife… :kiki_sweat_smile:

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@wakocima Please add a credit link under those images for the websites that you downloaded those images from.

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Aye aye captn! Thank you for the reminders :kiki_sweat_smile:

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But being designed to be held, won’t it feel off of wobbly if you leave it on a desk when using?

I’ve never owned a console, so controllers are nearly alien to me. :sweat_smile:

Consoles are a way, and @wakocima isn’t the first who reported using such a device. If you search through the forum, you should find a few topics about alternative controllers.
For me, such a console-controller would be okay, because it would lie fix and well positioned on a blanket in my bed, although I may prefer ↓↓"Adafruit", “Brimford” or perhaps the “Shuttle Pro V2”.↓↓ But at the moment I have other things to “take care of” before I think about this.

It has not always to be something like “TourboxNeo”, “Logitech G13”, “XENCELABS Quick Keys”, “LOUPEDECK CT”, “LOUPEDECK LIVE”, controllers like “Shuttle Pro V2”, “Razer Tartarus Pro Gaming-Keyboard”, “HORI Tactical Assault Commander (TAC)”, “Adafruit MacroPad” (halfway a DIY-Solution, and you can find other suppliers for DIY sets with different levels of “completeness”, some need you to solder, others can be “clicked together”), “Brimford Mini Teclado Personalizado” can do too.
And there is more software to assign functions to those controllers, you “just” have to crawl the internet for it.

Michelist

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I actually just hold the whole controller in 1 hand! I found out its’s the most comfortable for me. Macro keyboards are fun but I get lost on them too easily; I actually am thinking of assembling a little macro cube of my own, with simple switches/sliders/knobs/etc.

I feel like it’ll be the best of both worlds for me, since I don’t like using my hands all over the keyboard for shortcuts :kiki_yum:

edit: If I remember right, instructables had a ton of tutorials like this on their site. It’s just fun to tinker like this!

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Unfortunately, I’m not allowed to solder in my bed here in the nursing home without supervision. They fear me and my sudden blackouts may be hazardous … :fire:
… and to be honest, the risk exists. :frowning:
But I have everything at hand, a soldering station, a Dremel-like power drill, and so on, but they really dislike it.

Michelist

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As @Michelist said, any of those will do to avoid having a full-size keyboard that is less comfortable.

I use this for PC and for Android. It is a link to a video of mine on youtube where I explain how I have it configured for both systems. (In Spanish)

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My Huion Kamvas 22 plus comes with a great stand, goes from 20 to 80 deg, it is extremely comfortable to work with at my desk. I use my iPad when I want to work elsewhere including outside but those arms do look great. I have screen protectors for my iPad but I did read that with the Kamvas 22 that the screen would not scratch and did not need a protector. Please, if anyone knows anything different let me know. I have been using a Logitech mini k380 keyboard for a while and love it but did buy a Huion mini dial that I am slowly adding shortcuts too as I get used to one, slowly, slowly for the old brain lol… I go between the 2 working devices, 2 different pens plus Krita and my iPad drawing program reasonably easily and love both drawing surfaces. I haven’t got into scripts just the drawing and painting at this stage. I can’t image using a joystick but then haven’t used one so can’t compare. Thank you for sharing your info, much appreciated

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If you use the Huion dial, it is more than enough. Very good product.

As for screen protectors, I personally always prefer to have one on, even if it may slightly affect the quality or reflections on the screen. Just in case.

I have several professional artist friends who have had both iPads and Wacoms for years (almost 10) Without using any screen protector on either and neither has even the slightest scratch.

I guess if you’re careful there is no problems. The brands know what they’re used for and the official products will be designed to not damage the screens.

Although I think there is always the possibility that a small particle of dust or sand will get in the path that your pen will travel on the screen and make you happy that day :rofl:

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Yeah, I had some pretty bad accidents with my old Wacom Bamboo so nowadays - call me paranoid, but - I always prefer to have as much protection as possible. I’m even getting those silly anti-dust screen bands, since they can double as protection for screen edges. Heck, even my iPad has a two-part case (silicone + hard plastic ), then a glass protector, THEN paper foil on top.

To be fair, on the ipad this kind of setup has saved me a few headaches - I managed to break the protective screen more than once through random accidents (like someone accidentally pushing me, the lanyard that I have for it slipping off me and causing me to drop the ipad, stuff like that). Long term, I just prefer it this way cause changing the original glass would be a tragedy :kiki_upside_down:

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