You have to do something about the Clone Tool

[Weyoun9]

Due to some frustration with later versions of Photoshop, I’ve started looking for a “replacement” and Krita is one of them.

So I downloaded the program and started to explore.

When I started “Photoshopping once upon atime, I had a picture of a house to which I added a spaceship overing above. Now I took the same old picture and decided to add a second flagpole outside the house.

So I simply cut out the existing flagpole and added it to the othed side of the house.

It was a bit tricky to find how to use the Layer Mask but when I found out how it worked, it was no problems to use it.

What broke me was the Clone Tool.

First of all, it was impossible to make a “fine-tuned cloning” of the background where the new flag pole was placed. It was neccesary to do some cloning there to make it realistic.

But with this tool, it was impossible to achieve what i wanted.

Having the area which is about to be cloned somewhere top-right of the area in which the cloned area is going to be is crazy! It’s like trying to clone a tree outside the house and what you get is a part of the house instead.

Second, the colors!

They became all wrong, no matter how I tried.

After two hours I actually gave up.

Note that if I had used Photoshop, it would have taken me five minutes or less to achieve what i wanted.

A lot of people everywhere are searching for alterantives to Photoshop and since you’re putting down a lot of effort in what you are doing, it would be great if you could turn your product into something very attactive which works as good and even better than Photoshop.

[Takiro]

Krita is not supposed to be a replacement for Photoshop. Sure there is some overlap but first and foremost Krita is for painting. It will never be a replacement for Photoshop and it doesn’t aim to be one.

I have difficulties understanding you issue with the clone tool from the text alone. Do you mean that while cloning the clone tool paints parts of the already cloned area, because they are too close to each other? What you can do in this case is clone from on layer as a source to a new layer as a destianation, that way they can overlap without affecting the clone source.

If you want to just fix some errors, like patching gaps in the background or removing artifacts, perhaps the smart patch tool is what worth looking at

Smart Patch Tool

[Michelist]

I guess it is what I described here, in that topic:

How to rotate the Clone Tool cursor

I’m new to Krita and actually adjusting well as I’ve used Photoshop for over 20 plus years. I’m trying to use the clone tool and having trouble even after watching some youtube tuitorials and understanding how to use it. Having used the clone stamp for years in Photoshop I’m sure theres something I’m missing. I’m assuming the circle with an X is the target cursor that I saw mentjoned. The other circle is shown rotating around the other one but no one explains how it moves. Mine is in its origin…

Michelist

[Someonesane]

The Clone Brush preset works like Photoshops does (or at least like it did back when I used it years ago). When you hold down Ctrl the eye dropper appears. That’s your source point. Move it over the area you want to pick up and left click. Then move the cursor with the X in the center to the spot where you want to begin cloning and paint. The only tricky bit is learning that the settings to change whether it grabs information from a single layer or every visible layer is under the “Painting Mode” section of the Brush Editor. It’s not in the Tool Options docker, because unlike Photoshop, the Clone Brush in Krita isn’t an independent tool, but rather another preset under the Brush Tool. Because the features are unique to the “Clone Engine” of the Brush Editor, the settings fall within the Brush Editor options.

[NeotericCreativeHaus]

I would suggest you do more digging as of the software to replace Photoshop. It’s not ideal to replace photoshop with Krita except you only do painting.

[Weyoun9]

In that case I have got the wrong information because everywhere I look, Krita and Gimp are described as “the best replacements for Photoshop”.

As for the clone tool and my description, it’s rather the opposite. The tool clone an area which is too far away from the are that I would like to adjust which I refer to when I describe “tryinfgt clone a part of a tree and get a piece of a house besides the tree instead.

Not to mention that the colors becmae a bit odd.

I will continue to dig into this but the whole cloning operation is, as it looks, a bit too complicated for me

[Takiro]

@Weyoun9

Not to mention that the colors becmae a bit odd.

Krita is a color managed software. This means it respects color profiles of documents and displays but it has to be set up correctly. When the color changes when you import/open the file this usually has two reasons. Either the applications you used before were not color managed (this is the case pretty often. For example the windows image viewer will completely ignore color profile information) and you see the image correct for the first time. Or the color profile of the the Krita document is something different for some reason and the color was converted when you imported the image.

You can see the color model and profile at the bottom of Krita in the status bar

You can see more about color management here

Color Managed Workflow

When the color only changes when you paint then there is probably something with the blending mode or transpareny of the layers making the colors mix and appear different.

[Michelist]

But you can adjust direction and distance, as I described it in the above linked post of mine.
Of course, I can be completely wrong, but I have the suspicion, that you, although the link has 3 clicks right now, haven’t read the topic I linked to and where my also linked step-by-step description on how to use this tool is found. Or haven’t you understood the description?¹

So, maybe you can do something with the chapter in the manual describing the Clone Brush Engine:

Clone Brush Engine

Maybe you can adjust it to your liking using the above shown options.

Michelist

¹ Slowly but surely, I have the feeling that PS users can not switch to a little different handling of a tool.

[Someonesane]

@Weyoun9

As for the clone tool and my description, it’s rather the opposite. The tool clone an area which is too far away from the are that I would like to adjust which I refer to when I describe “tryinfgt clone a part of a tree and get a piece of a house besides the tree instead.

Not to mention that the colors becmae a bit odd.

With the Clone Preset selected, please turn on these two options within the Brush Editor panel, and try the clone tool again.

[alienrobot]

There is a key you have to press to set where to clone from, but it’s very awkward. I can’t figure out how to change the hotkey, for example.

I believe one problem is that because the brush tool has been filled with so much random functionality that the settings have very vague names that are impossible to understand.

@Takiro

Krita is not supposed to be a replacement for Photoshop

And photoshop isn’t supposed to be a painting program, but that has never stopped anyone.

Personally, I’d rather Krita become the FLOSS replacement for Photoshop than tell people to use GIMP.

[Takiro]

@alienrobot

And photoshop isn’t supposed to be a painting program, but that has never stopped anyone.

Personally, I’d rather Krita become the FLOSS replacement for Photoshop than tell people to use GIMP.

Perhaps when Krita gets the same millions, if not billions of funding that Photoshop has but until then.

[alienrobot]

Sorry, but I don’t think you need billions of funding just to put a message in the status bar when the user selects a clone engine brush.

I have submitted a bug report for this issue. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=511864

[Takiro]

My reply was about Krita becoming a replacement for Photoshop, I thought that was obvious from the quote.

I’m not saying Krita couldn’t use some improvement in some regards.