The idea is not bad but I fear that going this way may drown very good pictures in case we have to decide over three very good works.
And even in case the not featured pictures could be re-nominated I fear they won’t because they once „failed“.
What if we say a picture need to reach a amount of votes to be named for being featured?
Michelist
Hi
Yes, that’s what I see too.
On my side, I mostly vote 0, 1 and sometimes 2
I didn’t vote yet for negative score
Mostly because all proposal are good 
Also it seems that from the ~650 members that can participate to submit a suggestion & vote, only a few of us really participate; this might explain why we have good suggestion and positive votes only
But from my point of view keep having negative scores available is useful if some weird proposal are made
Same thought than @Michelist
By doing it a very good artwork can be put aside for no reason
Grum999
We got more negative than positive (less than 3 positive votes) for this for the first time, so sadly can’t feature this.
How do you interpret the scores @Grum999? Just for my information
Yes, I saw that, we just have to follow the rule then
Only people who’ve put negatives vote knows why they’ve put negative votes
On my side, I really love this kind of graphical style: simplicity of the line, shapes, colors 
But I can understand that some people don’t like it 
At least, it allows to see that having negative vote should be kept 
Grum999
Hey, I only saw this topic now, but it probably better to delate this topic before the original artist comes across this post/see the results. They might internalized the results numbers.
Yeah that is one of the issue. Although this categpry is closed one and only member above level 3 level2 can see this category. It will not take time for people to reach that level.
How to solve it rather than deleting all unsuccessful suggestions? Do we reduce the voting pool. Do we unlist the suggestions so that people can’t see it later? There will also be brief time when it is not unlisted and people can see the post.
Do we discard the negetive voting and only rely on one positive and one neutral stance vote and only feature the artwork when the total votes go above 9 and if the positive votes crosses 50%
I’ll move this discussion in the feedback thread
pinging people @here
We should build on people’s personal strength! If I post a pic, it may not please everyone, sometimes you can read it in the comments, here it is a vote, but it is a risk I’m willing to take at the moment I’m posting my work.
These votes are “only” about a concerned image, not the concerned users are evaluated.
Even though it may hurt, I hope that users who participate here so seriously to reach level 3, then also have the character strength and are objective enough to realize that we did not mean them any harm when they see the result of this voting, but that this time it did not please the general public.
In my eyes, everyone with level 3 should know that our community isn’t mean, so I don’t see it so negative if there is a negative decision through our community.
And what’s so bad about having a different taste, style or aspiration? I think I would seriously question myself personally if suddenly everyone liked what I was doing or stopped criticizing me and my views. Even though I live bedridden in a nursing home these days, I’m still a punk inside.
Michelist
Small correction in my original post, I was on mobile so couldn;t double check properly this category is open to level 2 member, should we restrict it to level 3?
If I’m not wrong, there’s 26 level 3 members
620 level 2 members
For me we can keep level 2 I think
Grum999
Alright seems right.
What are your thoughts on the issue of artists getting discouraged or getting hurt by the negative votes.
That seems okay to me, too.
Michelist
Negative vote or not, whatever the system used to select featured post, we have to tell OK or not OK to feature something
And from the moment it’s not OK, whatever the reason, it could hurt the artist…
I have currently no idea; the best things would be the topic being hidden for suggested artist, even if he have level 2 or 3
But I’m not sure it’s possible.
Or might be complex to manage for moderators
Grum999
We are not in the kindergarten here! How can one raise if the one can’t stand negative impressions? It is like in real life, not everything I do gets applause, and everybody has to deal with that.
Should we create an option, for those who are proposed, to stop a voting before it ends? This way we can protect those who are weak or fear to not be featured.
If I had a vested interest in getting my pictures published here, not getting one chosen would spur me on to make it on the next one or the one after that. But this claim to myself I do not have.
But there we are people now times very different, my late wife, a good artist, would have in her young years probably crawled for days in her room from perceived unhappiness.
Michelist
Lets not get heated, we are just trying to come up with a process that is not discouraging. It is not a requirement but we can be considerate if possible. if there is no other way then we can go forward as is , May be we can out a short disclaimer stating votes are subjective opinion of members
Usually we try to give feedback only if artist requested it through a “critic-wanted” (a tag or explicit textual request).
But because someone thought an artwork was good enough to be featured, it could be hurting for the artist that didn’t ask anything to see artwork being rejected without any constructive feedback, just with a vote for which meaning like “too bad to be featured”
It doesn’t mean the artwork is bad, just people that voted where not convinced it’s good enough to be featured.
Ask me, and I can tell you that a Munch or a Picasso are not good enough to be featured in a museum, because I really don’t like their artwork.
Does these artworks are not good? Probably not if we take a look about prices and how their are “famous”
The thing is, artist might not want to see their artwork being voted negatively if they didn’t asked anything.
So, I agree we need to find a solution to choose which artwork can be featured or not.
With maybe more than just positive & negative scores, I don’t know.
Grum999
Absolutely right!
Thus, I mentioned →
Michelist
@Grum999 hit a very important point here. Voting on artwork is kind of like providing unsolicited feedback.
What if we took a step back and first defined the purpose of the featured gallery? I believe it would help us make a better decision here.
Is the main purpose of the gallery to:
Numbers 1 and 2 can live happily alongside each other (they are inclusive) but #3 requires a selective approach as it’s more exclusive.
I have a piece in the featured gallery that was nominated prior to the voting feature we have now. I’m pretty sure if it were submitted today it would not be voted in.That would bother me and probably would motivate me to paint something really nice but a part of me would be annoyed at having received a critique on something I never would have felt worthy of critique to begin with.
Exactly! I’d even say that nominating already does that - or better: asks for it. Maybe it’d be better to ask the author if they are OK with being nominated.
As for the ‘featured’ criteria: I’ve always understood it in a way that those artworks should really offer something that’s a fair bit above average - besides being a show-off of Krita’s capabilities. Entering the '“Hall of Fame” on the grounds of personal preferences and taste feels just wrong to me.
That’s the reason why I voted negative (was I the only one?) on that recent suggestion. I just could not see the quality that’s imho required in there - nothing to do with ‘not liking’ etc. Also I have to say that most of the nominated works lacked some quality in my book, but were OK-ish. Hence I stayed out of it so far.
So this begs the question how one would find objective criteria for feature-worthiness - and I think that it’s almost impossible. There are though some criteria that should be fulfilled as a minimum requirement:
Now, we all know that there are some outstanding artworks, which break one or more of the above “rules”. But then those pieces should offer something worthwhile in return - which of course doesn’t make evaluation any easier…
Since voting can still be consider indirectly critique in a way. We could add a tag that the artist want their artworks to be in feature voting pool or not.
Though critique is healthy to get, as your learning/studying the arts. Some artists, might not be experienced enough to handle them yet.
Though if we want to get real technical we could add a skill/level system. (though I’m not sure how that would it be implemented)
If we have a feature-not-wanted tag, I think people will not discover this tag. People generally don’t bother with tags. We have critique wanted tag etc but not many use them. So we will have to keep away a lot of untagged artwork out of the featured evaluation. This makes the pool or artwork smaller to choose from.
Thanks for putting forth these questions, Indeed we need all three and I agree the third one is a bit of exclusionary for the new comers or people who have not yet mastered the skills. But in my opinion we want this row to have quality artworks. If we discard the high quality requirement then there may be a stick figure drawing which is art by definition and made in krita, which will be technically qualified and could be featured on subjective voting results. We must want some kind of high bar to the showcase the best quality stuff that the community submits here, think of it kind of like a hall of fame. It is also in a way, a goal to achieve for the new learners to master their knowledge of art and krita so that they can be in the featured too.
Of course now the question is how to evaluate and objectively pick the high quality stuff and @dreamkeeper has put forth a good list of check-boxes for us which I agree on. These are the things we should keep in mind while submitting a proposal for featured row.
Even then there may be a piece which could tick all those boxes and may get negative votes, may be because of the subject, or may be because of the controversial topic, or any reason that the voters collectively think of. High quality of artwork doesn’t rule the fact that there will not be any artwork which might be downvoted. That is the scenario we need to solve now.
I think the main issue we have is that people whose artwork are to be proposed for evaluation will be in the group of people who will vote and evaluate the submission. I think we need to find a way to form of group which will not have either this conflict of interest (as in self voting) or have their submission evaluated in past or future. For example judges of a contest may not themselves be participants or if they are participants in future they can’t come to the judging room during that contest. In real life too the judges may give scores but that score may not be visible to general public and sometimes may only be disclosed in case of disputes.