Pro manga inking and toning tips.

Greetings guys. Hope you’re doing well.
So this year, I plan to hone my digital inking skills. But there’s this thing which I’m still
curious about.

See the speed lines in the background in the following picture ?
See how the lines display a kind of texture when they go thin or fade away ?
It also appears a bit upon the helmet, under the left brace, and on some parts on the goblin head.
How do I achieve that in Krita ?
If also you could tell how to make the gradient blended with the screentone, I don’t mind.

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Hi

For speed lines, you can take a look in @Deevad tutorial about drawing line art.

Especially, part starting around 5’10
(but I recommend to watch all video :))

For texturing, you can use Halftone filter or Newspaper plugin to generate screentones.

Or use a layer on which you already have the right texture and apply a transparency mask on it to simulate light/shadows…

Or directly use a screentone brush
image
(You might need to create new one from them I think, to get exact effect you want)

Maybe you can find some bundles dedicated for this kind of art.
Here a bundle shared by @AureliaLeta

That’s not exactly what you’re looking about, but maybe she’ll be able to gave you better tips than me.

Grum999

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Another one from @AureliaLeta :

(Tone cutter should help you)

Grum999

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Thanks for helping me @Grum999.
I’ve found useful resources thanks to the forwarded links to the brush kits.
They look good.
However, not all my problem are fixed :
I’m very aware of the drawing assistant tool and use it most of the time for my comic.
However, the feel from the speed lines you see in the background, I’m curious about
how to replicate that. The thing is, they’re not totally smooth. On the contrary they’re
textured. Textured as textured line strokes. Watch closer, observe the picture zoomed in.
there’s like a consistent gap that repeats itself around the speed lines. But We can’t call this a gap. It’s a typical visual effect. And I so so want to know how to trace lines like that.
One way for me to achieve that was to lower almost completely the brush size.
But I’m not sure this is how it’s done.

Is that not a antialias artefact from the lines being rotated while too small?

For me, it looks like a screen tone applied ti speed lines.
Maybe, playing with halftone filter (screentone or pattern option) it’s possible to reproduce this effect :thinking:

Grum999

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Those lines are a superposition of normal lines with screentone patterns. And the low resolution also helps creating those kind of moire patterns in some places.
As Grum999 said you can achieve the effect with the halftone filter. Just ink the lines as usual and then apply the halftone filter with the screentone generator. if the lines have hard edges you can apply some blur to them before you apply the halftone filter.
What about something like this?

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Awesomeness @Deif_Lou !
It seems screentones really help create this effect.
Would you mind giving a step by step guide on how to superpose screetones with these line strokes ?

just a random test without halftone on it to see it.
anti_alias

I’ve made a quick “tutorial” (.kra file):

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Thank you @Deif_Lou.
One last thing.
See the red marked areas, the lines in there looks thin I admit.

But the gap in brush size, is it caused by the fact that it’s traced in low resolution ?
I really like that effect as well. But I’m wondering, do you think it’s the low resolution or
the brush itself.
If you can manage to trace a few lines replicating this effect, just tell me and how you did that. It’s my last question.

The picture you gave as example is in a small résolution (900x1350)

But I think here he just have draw spaced lines and applied a screentone in background (not on lines here as it was done for speed lines effect)

And I also think artist didn’t work at the resolution of 900x1350, he might have worked on a bigger image size and then, image has been resized.

And finally, current result is association of drawing technic associated with resizing.

Grum999

Thanks for your opinion on this.
My own hypothesis is that this effect is caused by the screentones in the background.
The grayish parts would cause this effect if you trace thin lines ontop.

Now, there’s a specific type of screentone that is necessary to replicate the effect.
I don’t have it or do not know how to replicate that.

I tried to make something that is not perfect but close.
It seems I was right.

To replicate the effect as close as possible you should based it on a high resolution reference image, because one can’t really say what the screentone used looks like actually from the image you posted.

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Except my though about resizing image, I’m not sure about the difference between my hypothesis and your :sweat_smile:

Here a quickly and dirty test drawn with a mouse (so sorry, it’s not exactly like your example)

I think it need more test/tuning to get the same effect than in your example, but it’s late here and I have to go to the office tomorrow then, now, go to to sleep :sleeping:

Grum999

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Hello, I have done manga-style things, many things can be achieved with Krita although sometimes it is complicated, but if you use Linux you could use Krita in conjunction with Azpainter, it is another open source program, it brings several tools to make lines of action and other things that are used in the manga, which saves you a lot of time.

Here are some examples of the things that can be achieved by combining both programs:


Here is a link to the Azpainter page:
Download (xdomain.jp)

PS: If you use windows I think I could try to do what you ask only with Krita, I think there is also a way.

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I don’t know if this is close to what you are looking for, but I remembered that many mangakas use certain types of pixelated brushes to give their drawings a certain touch

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Oops I didn’t read well what you said. We had about the same guess. :sweat_smile:

How did you do that ? I’m interested in the radial blur effect and radial copy paste of the lines, but also the gradient with screentones.