In the recording info it displays (Recording info: 4320x4320 px, 50112 frame(s)).
But when I open the (Open Record Directory) it says I have 55961 frames.
I don’t know how to make the program recgonize the last frames so I can export the whole project into the timelapse!? Please help.
Which version of krita are you using and which operating system?
You don’t have the Enable Result Preview options in the Export Timelapse window so you’re probably using an old version of krita.
The latest formal release is version 5.1.5 so you ought to update to that: Krita Desktop | Krita
I don’t know why there is a difference between the number of frames in the ‘Recording info:’ and the final numbering of the frame image files in the folder.
Does the folder image file numbering start at 0000000.jpg?
Does the OS report 55962 files in the folder?
What happens if you try to Export with the settings as they are?
If you had a capture interval of 1 second, that number of frames would represent a total recording time of 15.5 hours. What was the situation for initial recording?
A frame size of 4320 x 4320 is massive so it would be a good idea to enable the Resize option to give something more suitable for a video.
I will answer your request for help below, but now I have many questions, because I don’t understand your kind of behavior.
I have trouble understanding your reference to, or objection to, email support.
First, it is not customary on this forum to provide email support, and second, if you really did receive email support, then we here on the forum obviously have no way of knowing what information was exchanged between you and the person providing you support and what actions were suggested to you.
If anything, when support requests reach us via PM, we usually point out that this forum’s support is done publicly on the forum and not via private audience, this is the only way other help seekers can benefit from possible solutions and more users could help you if they see where the problem is, this is how forums work and something email does not allow.
However, a look at the forum search tells me that you already asked a question about exact this issue here in the forum a week ago, and then you didn’t get back to us here and didn’t respond to the questions posed to you. →
Why, contrary to forum rules, are you opening a new topic for the same issue? @raghukamath, @AhabGreybeard, @sooz can you please merge these topics?
Furthermore, if you have asked for support elsewhere in the meantime, then no one here in the forum can know about it. So why so reproachful? →
Who have you had email correspondence with?
Why are you asking us when you had a private audience with whoever?
Here in the forum AhabGreybeard tried to help you, why didn’t you answer AhabGreybeard’s questions?
The story of the magic crystal ball that tells us everything we need to know in order to successfully support those seeking help only ever works in fairy tales and in the movies.
But help in forums works only if the person seeking help actively cooperates to solve their problem, we do not sit next to the help seekers, do not see where there are problems.
For Krita, as far as I know, there is no official support, and the people who try to support others here in the forum, they do it on a voluntary basis in their spare time.
It may happen that one of the developers of Krita by chance reads your question here in the forum and answers it, but this is also usually done in the free time of the developer and is also a voluntary service, according to all that I know.
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So, and now to your difficulties:
To help you, you have to put us in a position to help you! Communication happens here in the forum, but not on an unknown number of different platforms, we don’t run after you.
Therefore, again the questions of @AhabGreybeard (and more):
What version of Windows are you using?
What version of Krita were you using before your update?
Have you checked the number of files in your folder with the frames?
Does the number of files in your folder correspond to the number of 50112 files displayed by FFmpeg?
If yes, then you need to rename your files in order, so that there are no “gaps” or “jumps” between them. So for example 0, 1, 2, _, 4, 5, 6, you need to rename to 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. For this there are tools which can rename masses of files comfortably. If you don’t know any, I can tell you which ones.
The fact that now no export works at all can be due to the version jump by your update. For Krita 5.1.5 you should use the version “ffmpeg-release-essentials.zip” of FFmpeg hosted on Gyan-Dev, it is the officially recommended version for Krita (this is a direct download link): https://www.gyan.dev/ffmpeg/builds/ffmpeg-release-essentials.zip
Please put the FFmpeg-Version in the appropriate folder and see if you can render a project with it that you could render before without issues.
What happened if you tried to render the time-lapse with your previous version of Krita, with the settings in place, as you were asked to do? Or did you not try that at all?
Did you really had over 15.5 hours of painting time?
Did you try rendering at a lower resolution?
If something does not work, then please report back and tell us the steps you have taken so far and where you are stuck.
There is a lot to respond to here and I think quite a bit of confusion.
I was not having a go at your team rather just reaching out again because I needed help and my next question had not been responded to.
I don’t know how your systems connect, I am new to the forum.
I did not know there is no official support. I did not know I could get a response from anyone other than staff privately.
I did not know the forum had responded.
I did not reach out to talk privately any post I make here if someone replies it automatically gets sent to my email. Any response in the forum is emailed to me too and I saw the emails so responded via email.
It felt like the person helping me told me to update, which caused further issues and then ignored me so I was reaching out again. I may have been wrong. I do not feel my response was very strong at all rather just stating the facts. I do not know why you have taken such a strong stance in return. I am sorry if I have caused something here…
There was clearly confusion here and I was not attacking the community and the response is very defensive so sorry you felt that way. Maybe that was also my communication.
I hope no bad blood!
Thankyou for the questions still. I appreciate it.
I was using Krita 5.0 I think and updated to the 5.1.5
I did check the number of files with the number of frames and they were different. More files in the folder than showing of frames in the program.
“Does the number of files in your folder correspond to the number of 50112 files displayed by FFmpeg?
If yes, then you need to rename your files in order, so that there are no “gaps” or “jumps” between them. So for example 0, 1, 2, _, 4, 5, 6, you need to rename to 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. For this there are tools which can rename masses of files comfortably. If you don’t know any, I can tell you which ones.”
I think this may be a problem if you could tell me which tool would help that would be amazing, thankyou.
Thanks for the direct download link, I will try that out!
Yes my old projects can still render.
I tried rendering with the suggested settings before I updated and it still didn’t work unfortunately.
Yes I had 15.5 hours of painting time.
I have since lowered time lapse frame capture to 1080 instead of 4320 (was way to much but I did not realise).
@benmarquard I replied to your first post in this topic then assumed that you would eventually make a reply in the topic, on the forum, which is how the forum works.
I assume that you’ve set your forum preferences to have an email sent to you whenever there is an important event in the forum, such as your topic having a reply from someone.
That email would have been sent from the forum software itself, not from me or any other person, to advise you that there was a reply. I assume that it also contained the text of my reply for your information.
This is all assumption by me because I don’t use that email notification facility and don’t know how it works or what it does.
If you replied to that email, with your personal Reply function email, then it would have been sent to the forum software. No actual person has seen your email reply and the forum software is probably incapable of replying to emails.
If you like, you can post the text of your email reply in a reply here in the forum, so that everybody knows what you tried to say in response to the original conversation here.
Here comes the list of programs for renaming masses of files. All the programs I present are free to use, at least for private use, or have a free trial period.
For renumbering files I usually use my file manager Total Commander, it is a shareware program which so far could be used indefinitely, taking into account a nag screen at program start, whether the trial period is still unlimited is unknown to me. The purchase version must be paid only once and can then be used indefinitely, updates included (so far at least). To change your file numbering it would be quite sufficient. It can be obtained from here:
Furthermore, I like to use Métamorphose in version 2, it allows complex renaming operations, including several renaming operations that can be done one after the other, a batch processing. So you can for example insert a space at the end and then move the first n letters backwards, and many other things. Complex but powerful, this software is available for Windows and Linux:
A program I used to use more often is 1-4a rename, it is so called mailware, you just have to send a mail to the developer to be allowed to use it, I don’t use it anymore, but it is good to use. A comparatively simple software, it can be found here:
Addendum: Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, unfortunately I had a kidney colic today, and I’m feeling rather less well. I’ll get back to you, if necessary, in the next few days.
The folder image file numbering does start at 0000000.jpg
“Does the OS report 55962 files in the folder?” - What does OS mean?
If I export with the settings as they are it would create the video to the incorrect ending frame ( the same one shown on the menu).
Could you please explain this further:
“If you had a capture interval of 1 second, that number of frames would represent a total recording time of 15.5 hours. What was the situation for initial recording?”
Since the update when trying to export the time lapse now I am getting a new error message. I have attached a screenshot. I saw in a forum that this is just an error of Krita 5 release??
But are there any missing file numbers, as asked by @Michelist above?
‘OS’ means Operating System. I think you’re using Windows and you show a partial screenshot of the File Manager but you’ve cropped off the number of files which is usually displayed at the bottom of the File Manager window.
So, are there actually 55,962 image files in that folder?
That needs to be checked. The OS File Manager will count them for you.
You’ve confirmed in a previous reply that you did record for 15.5 hours of painting time.
You haven’t uploaded the screenshot to the forum here, so can you do that?
As for the discrepancy between the assumed number of files in the folder and the recorder docker’s statement about the number of frames:-
Do you have any other folders in the recording area that might have 50,112 frame image files in them?
Your video duration of only about 6 minutes (for 15.5 hours of painting) is because you’ve set an Input FPS of 200 and a Video FPS of 60.
The majority of the recorded frames will be discarded to get that time compression.
For future long recordings, it would be a good idea to increase the capture interval so you get fewer recorded images.
Okays no worries disregarding that solution I may have some odd insight and help for it.
As for the miss count it may be because the images are broken. A bad save can cause the image to be bad and because of that krita does want to read it or detect. The operating system and krita kinda handles these cases differently.
When I was working on Photobash I noticed the same issue. Photobash would read less images on folders randomly. I kinda managed to fix the detection of the image but sometimes there is nothing there and the os can read it. It is cursed stuff really.
Regardless I ended up wanting to detect these images and made a function on imagine board (the old key enter plugin ) that detects null images and tags them. I think that would totally explain the case of this miss match.
After a image is marked with null you can search for it and open it with keita and resave it again or delete depends. If you can resave it is good if not might as well delete.
After taking care of the cursed images you can rename the entire folder with imagine board using the path to the directory. This would clean the gaps in numbers or names. It can order by os list order or by file age.
Unless the recorder really needs a especific nomenclature and imagine boards nomenclature is not compatible. But I made key enter to do easy renaming for large groups of files.
By the way if you guys use imagine and notice something off that is not working for this case tell me and I can tweak it or just make a new function. I don’t mind helping for the recorders sake I just haven’t been using it.
Thank you Michelist for the awesome and helpful response!
In regards to this reply:
The fact that now no export works at all can be due to the version jump by your update. For Krita 5.1.5 you should use the version “ffmpeg-release-essentials.zip” of FFmpeg hosted on Gyan-Dev , it is the officially recommended version for Krita (this is a direct download link): https://www.gyan.dev/ffmpeg/builds/ffmpeg-release-essentials.zip
I followed the link and downloaded the folder but I cannot see where to install the new version of Krita?
I have attached what I see in the folder - sorry if I have missed something obvious I am not versed in computers to well.
Thank you for the extensive list of programs for mass renaming, think you have me sold on Total Commander but if that does not work out I will look through the other options suggested.
I hope the kidney is better!
FFmpeg is not installed in the classical sense, you just have to unpack it to a location you have access rights to. If you are logged in and working with the main user account, you can either use the default location on the C:\ drive, i.e. unpack to C:, or, if you prefer, you can unpack it in the download folder. After you have unpacked it you have to point Krita to the file “ffmpeg.exe” in the folder “bin” of the unpacked ZIP archive.
You do this by entering it in the “FFmpeg” input line, which can be seen for example in the dialog box on your first screenshot here in the topic. To do this, click on the folder icon at the end of the “FFmpeg” line and in the explorer dialog that opens, navigate to the “bin” folder of the previously unzipped ZIP archive, click on the “ffmpeg.exe” file there, and confirm your selection.
By the way, as far as Total Commander is concerned, just to rename or renumber a few files occasionally, that would be too expensive for me, so I would take the nag screen in your place and use TC for free.
But if you are looking for a powerful file manager that goes far beyond what you can do with Windows Explorer and also has a powerful FTP client, then you have probably found the right tool, I advise you to test the TC first extensively. You can extend the TC via plugins, and, for easier access, you can also put and/or set up any programs and functions in the icon bar, I even have different icon bars set up for different application areas that I can switch between. I also use TC to access most of my cloud storage, can set them up as network storage, such as Google Drive, Dropbox, OneDrive, Yandex Drive, Box.com and more, some of which are included as web DAV accounts, others via SFTP, all in all very convenient.
I bought the TC, still in version 1 in 1994, after a short trial period and have been using the TC ever since, all updates are free, but there has been talk of possibly changing this for new customers.
Michelist
Add/Edit: And my kidney? Well, after the operation, which was unfortunately postponed to May, it will be good to me again, at the moment it restricts me a lot and I can participate here less than I would like.
I cross checked the file amount in the folder and yes there was a discrepancy of almost 6000 photos.
Thank you for the tips and tricks. I did not know it would discard them but would not the faster the video the more discarded images make sense? (Needing more images to expand a time lapse into a longer time period for a smoother video; more frames = smoothers footage).
I have attached the new error message I am getting (the screenshot from the email chain).
I tried one video editor but it broke the whole program trying to put in 50000 images hahaha… so I thought it best to leave it to the time lapse program connected to Krita. Could you suggest a program you might think would be able to handle it properly?
Ah yep that makes sense but in my case it wasn’t a case of not detecting images more of miscounting ( I do know you wrote this before I had confirmed that there was gap in the file naming count.)
Still, thanks for the insight and I am sure it could be useful in the future!