Feature request for dedicated Eraser Tool

I suggest @AndreasResch to edit the first post in this thread with, detailed explaination of the request. And then we can rest the debate. Let the developers notice and take a call. For details you can pick ideas from the replies made here and try to summarise it.

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Sorry. But it seems you are talking about something different. At least this is not what I’m suggesting. Not sure what lead you down that road.

The suggested “Eraser Tool” should not mess with the “Eraser Toggle” at all. Why would it. Even the horrible “P” program doesn’t do it like that. Please read my explanation from my previous post again. My suggestion will not interfere with the workflow as it is now.

That is exactly what I meant by decoupling it from the erase mode. That is it should not mess with the eraser toggle. I was just explicitly stating this requirement because currently the toggle is shared across tools. Which we don’t want with the erase tool.

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Well. The time I had I used on clarifying some misunderstandings that came up here. I will maybe get something done tomorrow. But my post from about 20 minutes ago already explained it pretty well. It’s so simple.

Well. It was never coupled to begin with, so no need to decouple. But yes - the suggested “Eraser Tool” has nothing to do with the “Eraser Toggle”. Never had. The same way as the Three Slots or the Ten Brushes plugins have nothing to do with that toggle.

I think you can copy paste [the explanation] to the top post.

Its what the devs will read, with how many replies is here its will be hard to see the meat/explanation/ specification of the main request. :sweat_smile:

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I will create a new thread and ask the mods to delete this one. This one is a mess and lead to nothing but confusion.

Please do not create a new topic. Just edit the top post. People will read relevant replies that they need. It is how the forums and open discussion work. There will always be different views.

eh. there are pretty good discussion here - though. I was not confuse to be honest.
It just give insight on what people expect the tool should be and alternative.

Also there are things that are very krita specific that us long time user know but for newer one might be confusing.

Like Eraser toggle - is global, but there is also the Eraser blending mode, and brushes has blending modes of their own including eraser.

The discussion which of this can be used and which approach will be the easiest to implement for the dev is insightful if I say so.

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Well there is no eraser tool yet. For current users and developers the eraser toggle is global mode they might want to know what to do about the eraser mode while this new tool is active. And while making a request it is good to clarify things .

@AndreasResch Good day,

I’m seeing some people here suggesting the proposed Eraser Tool when active to turn every brush selected into a eraser. Like the Slot 1 of the plugin Three slots does it. You find that confusing and bothersome (like me) right?

You Eraser Tool actually only remember and switch to a selected number of brushes marked as Erasers, isn’t this?

Example: You are using the brush Wet Circle, then you activate the (proposed) Eraser Tool and it changes to the last used Eraser, in this case lets say Eraser Small.
What happens if you decide to select the brush Wet Circle in the brush docker? The Eraser Tool gets deactivated and goes back to the Freehand Brush? Or the brush becomes an Eraser?

Cheers

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From what I get is that while using this eraser tool, all your brushes will be available to you as if they have eraser mode active. So this really negates the need of separate eraser presets or tags for that matter. This is how it is in photoshop or GIMP.

Sidenote - Also I still have one more point to against this eraser tool.
Instead of clicking on the eraser tool icon on the toolbar you can pick any eraser preset from the right click popup menu or from the brush docker directly. While in the eraser tool like in photoshop you have to activate the eraser tool then choose a proper brush preset (example hard or soft or textured ) to act as your eraser. I will find clicking on the eraser preset directly more quick given that it is also accessible near your brush with the popup palette. In addition to this there is the ‘/’ key which switches to last used brush preset like already mentioned in this thread. All this really makes it redundant to have a dedicated eraser tool.

Yeah. You’re absolutely right. That’s how it supposed to work.

When you select “Wet Circle” which I assume is a brush, then the Brush tool should get activated again. I would not suggest to touch the eraser toggle, otherwise it gets confusing again.

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This is currently not implemented, If you want to use the wet circle brush (that is a normal brush) you will need to activate the free hand brush tool. There is no automatic switch to brush tool if you click on a brush preset from other tool (here eraser tool) currently.

This is how it is in photoshop too. You need to switch from eraser tool to brush tool and then choose the desired brush preset or use the last active preset for that tool.

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No. I would not like that and it would be something along the lines as Krita works now - just different and from my point of view, even more confusing, as now you have two eraser toggles.

And I’m not sure what exactly you mean in your sidenote. But when you select an eraser tool, the suggested Eraser Tool button would get activated as well. It’s basically a two way thing. When you press the button, an eraser gets selected and when you select an eraser, the button gets selected as well. Otherwise - confusion. Vice versa … the same for brushes.

What Daishishi wrote is on point.

That’s not how Photoshop works. I can select a brush when I’m in Eraser mode and the tool will jump back to the brush tool.

here it shows the user is erasing with the eraser tool and then to paint he is switching to brush tool. He is not just clicking on the preset. Clicking on any preset while you have eraser tool active will just change the current eraser preset to change.

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Right now in krita you just click on any eraser preset icon and switch to eraser brush and then hit the / key to switch to last used eraser brush preset. it is quicker than switching to eraser tool then selecting a brush to user as eraser and then again switching to brush tool by hitting the ‘B’ key

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I work on Photoshop several hours per day - no need for a video. Photoshop works like I just described in my previous post. When you select a brush, the last used brush is used (basically the same as the Eraser, just with brushes). But I can also select a brush from the list, while I’m in eraser mode. I don’t need to chose the brush tool first and then select another brush. Pick the brush preset → the tool jumps to the brush tool.

That is not what @Daishishi said though :slight_smile: he said what happens when you click on Wet circle brush preset in the brush docker not the brush tool icon on the toolbar. And I said that currently clicking on the brush preset icon in the brush docker doesn’t change the currently active tool to brush tool automatically