Yeah my bad too, usually assume i inferred something in writing when mostly i have not - just some habit i have.
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This is a general observation not a comment on anyone here on this thread.
In this scenario too I see people who are not familiar with volunteer driven open source software complain and rant and have some other expectation about the service. it is good to complain and express but people should really get to know the service and how it is made better. Everyone wants something instantly on demand. I do not blame them for having an opinion but I couldnāt help feel bad about the people who are volunteering for maintaining the instance or developing mastodon.
I found this short comic by @Deevad apt for the situation.
I feel this is true for all Free software projects
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Good find @raghukamath!
Thatās the problem when, in the middle of the ocean, an ocean giant with over 8000 people on board gets into distress and threatens to sink. Normally, any ship or boat that passes there will already be carrying the number of passengers or cargo it can handle, and canāt save everyone at once without getting into trouble itself. Probably they have to call supporting vessels from the next port to save all of those threaten to drown.
And here, only the kind of resource needed is different.
Michelist
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I signed up on Tumblr. The biggest reason was because of their policy, now, of barring visitors. Before, an irritating āinvitationā appeared all the time for you to register; then they started to block (I donāt know if they changed that).
Who wants to visit, there it is.
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Good to know.
Iāll see if I could apply by then,
Right, ofcourse
I feel like I see that is a problem everywhere in term of; the bigger the site is the harder it is to moderate
wished I known about it sooner.
Not surprising that for sure, that reminds me in a way how everyone artist was jumping ship from csp earlier this year.
Which begs the question was Krita prepared for the influx of artists trying to download krita? Looking back on it now.
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Since I donāt wanna make a new topic cause what happen yesterday is related to this topic
Aka DeviantArt having every artist/artwork be automictic in for training their AI.
Iāll try to find the latest article of this mess but article might not be accurate given there a lot of update information with what happened.
More important to ask is how everyone here feeling?
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I know some members here decided to delete all their artwork hosted on DevianArtā¦
On my side, I donāt use DeviantArt
I have an account for which I forgot password maybe 10years ago, but I never be able to recover itā¦ 
Grum999
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yeah I was one of the them. Since having to click on every AI opt out button on ever single art piece wasnāt worth it, consider how much time it took to find it. It was basically easier to delate.
Only thing Iām keeping up there in my DA account is the brushes I made for now.
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I will stay on Twitter, I feel that more than anything it is collective panic, that and mastodon.art no longer accepts more people, in the same way to see what happens in the future.
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Itās just an instance, you have thousands of other instances, no need to be on this one explicitly 
Just, avoid mastodon.social: it seems it has been blocked on mastodon.art due to lack of moderation
On my side, I still have a twitter account, but I wasnāt really active on it.
I found I feel comfortable on fediverse then, Iām more active on it now (I wonāt talk about all the horrors that are scrolling in my twitter TL when I didnāt ask for anything like thisā¦)
It may also be a realization 
Grum999
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Yeah, thatās the other thing, I wouldnāt know which instance to join, well Iāll figure it out in the future, thanks for the warning 
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Choosing an instance is not easy yes 
Youāve some explanation here:
And you can go here to find one:
It will help you to choose an instance according to your language, region point of interest or other criteria if these is important for you.
But the most important things is to read instance ToS and CoC to check if it match with your vision of a social network.
And choosing a ābigā instance doesnāt means youāll get more visibility because thereās more users.
Only local timeline is impacted by number of members on instance but I think itās more interesting to create a timeline based on tags (and use tags) than consider the local timeline will help you to participate to community
On my side, my main account is on a small instance (pouet.chapril.org), hosted by a voluntary association promoting open source software:
- Hosted in France (Iām sure they will respect data privacy and CNIL rules)
- Promote Open Source: a pledge of quality and trust for me
- Voluntary Association: a classic organization in France, framed and subject to the regulations
- Association members: natural and legal persons
I currently take time to decide if I just make a punctual donation to association or if I became a member to help them.
My secondary account is on a more general instance (mastodon.world) on which I manage my cat account on this one (except pictures of my cat and one email address, thereās no personal data hereā¦) 
Servers costs are provided on this one, I think to do a yearly donation in January.
Iām talking about donation: sure it could seems weird to leave twitter because (but not only) of $8 per month to donate on a mastodon server, but:
- A mastodon server is not free, someone have to pay for hosting and spent time to manage it
- If I can help, I help, like I do with Krita for example: this also allows people with less resources than me to be able to take advantage of the service
- Iām free to do it or not, and this money is not to pay the $44 billion bill of one stupid guyā¦
Grum999
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Me too, I deleted all my works after opting-out every singe one of them (just to make sure, there wasnāt a account wide option then). Even filled the google form because as it looks, DA bought a data model that was already trained on DA images by scraping the website. Then I deleted every artwork, only left a note explaining what happened and where to find me because some sites will unfortunately still link to my profile.
The opt-out is only for third party image generators, in their latest announcement they emphasize this several times. For DAs own AI model there is no-opt out whatsoever. When your artwork is on DA, it will be in their AI training data.
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worst part of this situation was the discount and how the DA thought it was good idea.
Either way the Damage was done
which reminds me I need to update my social links/where to find me as well. Should actually do a website too.
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I saw a post there today mastodon.art that said the owner had processed all the current new users as was possibly going to open for new accountsā¦ might keep an eye on it.
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inkblot too is gaining traction too
Though Iām checking both inkblot and pixelfed Iām tempted to make a pfp for both of them cause the feeling of fresh start type of feeling
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Damn it DA. most of my older artworks are thereā¦ the thing is i bought that 1 year thing just to try see if i would get back there eventually few months ago. buying kpop album and a cat toy would been better use. Looks like i will end up hosting my works somewhere else by myself.
Edit: thereās not muchi think will be lost for me in DAā¦ except i just feel iffy with this companies.
The initial setup with server is so overwhelmingā¦ so many to choose from with very little idea what i should use as metric to know whats best to choose from.
lets use this thread to know which would be good to jump on.
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I went to dA to check things and delete most of my art there and saw this announcementā¦
Iām still cleaning out things and will keep bare minimum though.
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agreed and see if you could cancelled/or get a refund
the announcement was made a little too late, considering how much backlash happen over the last 48 hours
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This announcement is only half right. When you open the full article on their page you can see that they only talk about third-party AI data sets, not about their own AI (Dream or whatever they call it).
And I didnāt check it myself yet (because why would I at this point) but it seems like they changed their Terms of Service to get more rights on the artworks and tweaked a few other things as well after some artists announced to file a lawsuit against DeviantArt because their AI thing would have broken European law, with their previous ToS. An artist friend told me. So it wasnāt really the community they listened to, it was their lawyers.
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