ClipStudioPaint Artists: What features does CSP have that you wish were in Krita?

Sorry, but “Ten Brushes” is a stock plugin delivered with every Krita you install, the “Ten Brush Slots” is not.

Michelist

Huh, I’ll give it a shot
Thank you

Hello,

Shameless plug to the plugin I develop: [Proof of Concept] Plugin as Eraser Tool (PET)

Cheers.

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there is one – toggle eraser preset (I think functionally this just lets you swap between two different brushes so you can also swap between a brush and a blender)
I set mine to shift+A

I feel like I am beginning to understand why people want the eraser tool:
You can switch between any tool via shortcut, but when you want the eraser, you have to change to the brush and switch to the eraser. Or you toggle the eraser-preset. But when you then switch back to the tool via shortcut and want to draw again you switch to the brush preset, but there is still the other tool activated, so they have to switch to the brush via shortcut and have an eraser. Even I get confused while writing this😵‍💫 here is an example:

You are selecting an area and want to erase it.
You make a loose selection, so deleting it is out of question.
So you are switching to the eraser-preset and start to erase.

Now, you switch to the selection tool.
Select another area that you want to draw on.
You are switching to the brush-tool, but it is an eraser.
So you switch to the brush-preset.
But here is still the selection tool, so you have to switch to the brush again to finally draw again.

And if that happens again and again, it gets frustrating.
We always switch back to the brush-preset when done erasing, but for users from other programs, it is difficult. Because they did not learn that way. They just switched tools.

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Thanks for the suggestion! It’s close, but doesn’t seem to have what I’d like to be able to change on the fly. It’s a good start though.

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I can see the use case for Krita’s “eraser mode,” but it’s the only digital painting program i’ve used that has it. Photoshop, CSP, and SAI have a dedicated eraser brush that saves your configuration, so no need to press additional buttons trying to switch presets just so your eraser behaves how you want it to.

@Erisian On that note, I understand the argument that Krita is its own program and has no obligation to feature match any other program.

However, let’s consider the function. Krita is, at the end of the day, a tool for manipulating pixels, visual media. Companies out there are spending millions of dollars on analytics, trying to figure out how users use their products in order to improve the user experience. KDE might not have those resources, but they can get feedback via forums, and also see what those companies are doing well.

When Krita does something differently than the industry standard, it’s worth asking how necessary that is. Sure, as free software, we might feel like Krita has no obligation to compete, but whether it wants to or not users are going to move towards the tools that help them function at a high level. Photoshop, CSP, and SAI were designed the way they are and all function similarly for a good, incredibly expensive reason.

Personally, as a user, I want to see Krita compete at the industry standard as well. I’d be fine with plugins to help me do what i need to, even if I do think the defaults in the core of the program are wonky.

These have both eraser mode as well as eraser tool.

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I would really like to have the flexible crop, bleed, margin system of Clip studio paint that allows you to export to certain borders - helps with the process of working together / revision / printing
Also 1 bit color cuz that’s the standard for black and white printing :grin:


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Yes, but my understanding is that Krita doesn’t have a hotkey to switch to a dedicated eraser tool by default, and it requires a plugin, no? I’ve been using the ten brushes plugin for that whenever I use Krita.

Well, you did forget when that standard was established. Krita’s development started 25 years ago, so there was no industry standard. But as I said, I start to understand, why an eraser tool is or could be needed.

I find it interesting, that krita is even compared to the industry standard, as it has limited resources. But please do not think, that krita has, even in the slightest, the power to compete with those programs when comparing the development force. The development is restricted to those who are contributing, and that is restricted to the donations.

If you want that features are developed faster, please consider donating, as the krita foundation can then hire a developer especially for features, the users want.

And don’t fortget to vote for the feature request. Feature request

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That’s good insight! Although SAI is a popular painting program, 16 years old, industry standard in eastern countries, and also developed by one person from my understanding. All due respect to the Krita contributors for building effective software all the same, I’m sure no matter the development situation, there has been no easy path.

To be fair, Krita may as well be industry standard in some cases, it certainly has more features than SAI. What I find puzzling as I’m coming into it is seemingly how far of a diversion it’s been from other painting programs in terms of defaults. That’s not to say being different is bad, considering there are people who would be upset if Krita’s defaults suddenly changed, but that there’s virtue in being predictable when it comes to user experience.

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I think one feature I dearly miss are the spray brushes. In CSP you can change parameters like particle size (independently from brush size), particle density, and more… which makes it more versatile. But in Krita it’s basically a stamp brush with very little control.
I know there’s the spray engine, but it’s slow and you can’t change the particle parameters on the fly (which I guess brings us back to the previous topic of customized brush panels).

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customizable 3d models (with easy changing of proportions) would be too great to be true.

on a side note - I wish you could save windows position in Krita for new file (working with my canvas detached).

The ability to toggle individual dockers with hotkeys.
Should take no time to implement, since you can already do that from Settings > Dockers > etc.

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I believe someone post a similar feature before, the feature for organizing brushes by draging and change the order just like they do in Clip Studio Paint. Just like they do with rearrange brushes for better customization it saves times for a lot of people. But i am not sure if anyone posted a similar coment or thread before of what i am talking about.
An sample they do this in this screenshot from this video in the minute 3:50 the user drag the brush for organize his set of brushes but in Krita you cant do that, only by Tags or renaming the brushes:


Source of the screenshot by a youtube Video for Organize Brushes:

With this feature apply to Krita it would be a relief for everyone who want to organize they brushes.
Because in this current times this how i have this my set of brushes displayed in my workspace:


So for reaching the brushes i have to put in minimun size.

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Hi! This plugin show individual dockers using hotkeys
Docker Under Cursor

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Up to brush sorting with dragging. Not only CSP has that feature, at least Photoshop, SAI, Paintsorm, Rebelle have. Artrage and Corel Painter in custom section too. I think every paint software has that feature except Krita. Just in case link to the topic created more than year ago.

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Feature that CSP has that I wish were in Krita :

Real time, ULTRA FAST BRUSH RENDERING(final level optimization), even with 1% spacing( CSP can do it, in a cost-effective way, and is able to achieve it, even on a Potato PC ).
I suspect they’re using a very effective vectorization to matrix combo for this
performance.

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Being Able To use stabilization and perspective guide snapping with selections; I apologize beforehand if the feature is already there but I just haven’t found it.

Not really from Clip studio paint; But speaking of selections I really miss the ability to soften the edge or establish the “feather” value of a selection in photoshop.

With not much else to say; I thank the devs for all their hard work!

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